How much do you stretch for your BJJ?

That says not to stretch before not after Phone Post 3.0

Stretch for about 10 minutes then bounce around for a minute to get the blood flowing. Im 37 and just jumping on the mats cold is a death sentence for me! LOL

I stretch about 15-30 mins before every class. I also do a 90min yoga class once a week.

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crossfire hurricane - 
Setree - I think stretching, as generally thought of, is a mistake.
Explain please. Phone Post 3.0


Most of the scientific data seems to indicate that stretching makes your muscles weaker while not making it any less likely you'll injure yourself.

Your range of motion, within healthy limits, is not typically limited by physical restraints, but rather, it's governed by your nervous system. When "stretching," you're convincing your nervous system that a particular range of motion is "safe." But what makes a movement safe?

I'm, personally, focusing on strengthening antagonist muscle groups, and then "checking" my range of motion. I've been making some pretty significant gains.

Setree -
crossfire hurricane - 
Setree - I think stretching, as generally thought of, is a mistake.
Explain please. Phone Post 3.0


Most of the scientific data seems to indicate that stretching makes your muscles weaker while not making it any less likely you'll injure yourself.

Your range of motion, within healthy limits, is not typically limited by physical restraints, but rather, it's governed by your nervous system. When "stretching," you're convincing your nervous system that a particular range of motion is "safe." But what makes a movement safe?

I'm, personally, focusing on strengthening antagonist muscle groups, and then "checking" my range of motion. I've been making some pretty significant gains.
I have seen some studies and articles on the dangers and cons of stretching. Or stretching in the wrong way or at the wrong time. I didn't really look too deep into it though. Phone Post 3.0

I try to do it about 10mins after class on my really tight areas.  It's my focus for the year.

There are some interesting replies, thx.

I would like some of the 10th Planet guys to jump in to get an idea of how much they stretch and which stretches they focus on. Phone Post 3.0

Dynamic mobility work is way more important than stretching.

And always be careful that 'stretching' isn't simply damaging your ligaments rather than making you more 'flexible'.

Anyone have any good resources? Or routines?

I think the science against stretching is predominantly pre workout. Post workout is fine to relax the muscles. Phone Post 3.0

acm5060 - Anyone have any good resources? Or routines?

I think the science against stretching is predominantly pre workout. Post workout is fine to relax the muscles. Phone Post 3.0


I really like these guys stuff:
http://goldmedalbodies.com/products/focused-flexibility/

Their free hip mobility program:
http://goldmedalbodies.com/8-movements-improve-your-hip-flexibility/
Free hip flexibility stuff:
http://goldmedalbodies.com/hips/


Scott Sonnon's joint mobility stuff (Intu-flow) is also great. I think all of it is free on youtube now:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTMxnpD0Mcc494g8Zo5ZuAg

FingerorMoon - 
acm5060 - Anyone have any good resources? Or routines?

I think the science against stretching is predominantly pre workout. Post workout is fine to relax the muscles. Phone Post 3.0


I really like these guys stuff:
http://goldmedalbodies.com/products/focused-flexibility/

Their free hip mobility program:
http://goldmedalbodies.com/8-movements-improve-your-hip-flexibility/
Free hip flexibility stuff:
http://goldmedalbodies.com/hips/


Scott Sonnon's joint mobility stuff (Intu-flow) is also great. I think all of it is free on youtube now:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTMxnpD0Mcc494g8Zo5ZuAg


Didn't think that I would like Sonnon's material. He's dubious and creepy. And frankly, he doesn't look like he's very good at his own material, but the material its self was pretty good.

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I stretch a lot.  I'm over 50.  

 

I stretch a lot.

 

FingerorMoon - Dynamic mobility work is way more important than stretching.

And always be careful that 'stretching' isn't simply damaging your ligaments rather than making you more 'flexible'.

Agreed. Learn how to move your hips.

civ77 - Show up to class 10 minutes late, touch toes for 5 seconds, good to go.
Ha ha, I've been there many times Phone Post 3.0

Setree - 
crossfire hurricane - 
Setree - I think stretching, as generally thought of, is a mistake.
Explain please. Phone Post 3.0


Most of the scientific data seems to indicate that stretching makes your muscles weaker while not making it any less likely you'll injure yourself.

Your range of motion, within healthy limits, is not typically limited by physical restraints, but rather, it's governed by your nervous system. When "stretching," you're convincing your nervous system that a particular range of motion is "safe." But what makes a movement safe?

I'm, personally, focusing on strengthening antagonist muscle groups, and then "checking" my range of motion. I've been making some pretty significant gains.

Basically, this. The problems most people try to address with stretching would be better served by strength training.

Most people do the whole stretching thing completely wrong.  You should do dynamic stretching as a warmup to lubricate the muscles, preparing the body for training.  After class is when you should do 'stretching'.  For  best use of your time you should do contract/relax, where you contract the muscle you want to stretch for 5-6 seconds, relax for 2 seconds and push into a new range.  Once you can't get anymore gain you hold the stretch for 30 seconds.  I believe PNF (contract/relax) stretching is 200% more effective than normal static stretching.  As a poster above said you have to trick your nervous system into getting a new range before you hold for an extended period of time.

I've been lazy about stretching since I hurt my knee a few weeks ago but before that I was pretty good about stretching after class.  This thread most likely will motivate me to get back to it.  

I have a lower body stretching routine (hamstrings, hips, groin, lower back) that takes about 10minutes just before or after class, I also do the same routine before a weights workout. Has helped a lot. Phone Post 3.0

Late, but this might be helpful  http://www.ericcressey.com/5-most-common-errors-athletes-yoga