Look back five years, Fedor was considered a god among men. He loses a couple, he was always trash, or so MMA fans say.
GSP is already getting this treatment. He does not finish, so he is not P4P status, despite beating legends such as the greatest WW of all time, BJ who is considered a P4P great by many fans, and Fitch/Shields who were fringe P4P fighters when they fought GSP.
We see it in boxing all the time. Roy Jones Jr. has had his stock dropped recently, and is no longer considered P4P greatness.
Michael Jordan even has detractors now. A lot of big time B-ball fans state Jordan was not the best, he was hyped up, allowed to break the rules to spark tension.
Soon Jon Jones will get the hype machine around him. He is the first UFC only 'Champion' who will fill out and move to heavy weight. He may have two long title runs in two solid divisions, and captivate future Fox fans.
Silva will lose speed. Unless he move up and gets more weight behind his punches he will start to slip by that time, and fans will then say he fought mediocre competition and 'was never that good.'
Sport fans are turds. MMA and UFC fans are no exception.
Discuss.
Neither will be fighting in 10 years...
Brigham - Neither will be fighting in 10 years...This.
Not the point. People will forget them by then.
Traditionalist - Not the point. People will forget them by then.
Good point. No one remembers Dan Severn, Ken Shamrock, Mark Kerr, etc...
Teh Spider - Nah just fucking around, i don't mind Fedor but this topic was strange.
Its not about Fedor, just how he is perceived. I have a bad feeling exciting fighters like Anderson, and tacticians like GSP will get rewritten. I want people to remember the Spider front kicking feared strikers into tomorrow.
Anderson will be no different. Shit he doesnt even have to lose and people talk shit. Unless he backflip kick KOs someone people haters will hate. Now imagine if he loses one, or two in a row. Jesus they will just confirm how bad he always was!
Teh Spider -Points kinda going over your head. Eventually Anderson will not be the best, and perhaps he will lose a couple in a row. Then flip flopping faggots will turn on him just like they did with Fedor, ignoring the amazing things Silva did.Astronaut -Teh Spider - Fedor is 34 Anderson is 36. Anderson is UFC Champ while Fedor got cut from strikeforce, what is the problem?
And when Fedor was busy becoming world champion, Anderson was getting choked out by Takase
The funny thing is though, that won't happen to Anderson again because he improved unlike Fedor who is on a 3 fight losing streak sadly.
Caught_clean -Teh Spider -Points kinda going over your head. Eventually Anderson will not be the best, and perhaps he will lose a couple in a row. Then flip flopping faggots will turn on him just like they did with Fedor, ignoring the amazing things Silva did.Astronaut -Teh Spider - Fedor is 34 Anderson is 36. Anderson is UFC Champ while Fedor got cut from strikeforce, what is the problem?
And when Fedor was busy becoming world champion, Anderson was getting choked out by Takase
The funny thing is though, that won't happen to Anderson again because he improved unlike Fedor who is on a 3 fight losing streak sadly.
Exactly.
I personally don't deny Fedor, I just don't believe he is the GOAT. GSP and Silva surpassed him. Sorry
Just like Fedor surpassing Royce as the true legend and GOAT
Traditionalist - MMA and UFC fans are turds. Sports fans are no exception.* Fixed *
I find it hard to believe people 10 years from now will watch tapes of Silva's performances and say "eh, whatever".
orcus - I find it hard to believe people 10 years from now will watch tapes of Silva's performances and say "eh, whatever".
Normal people no. Some MMA fans? Doesnt matter what they see.
Pozzo and Lucky -Traditionalist - Not the point. People will forget them by then.Good point. No one remembers Dan Severn, Ken Shamrock, Mark Kerr, etc... <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
mark kerr really was overhyped though, and he still gets more respect in retrospect than Fedor
Traditionalist - Look back five years, Fedor was considered a god among men. He loses a couple, he was always trash, or so MMA fans say.
GSP is already getting this treatment. He does not finish, so he is not P4P status, despite beating legends such as the greatest WW of all time, BJ who is considered a P4P great by many fans, and Fitch/Shields who were fringe P4P fighters when they fought GSP.
We see it in boxing all the time. Roy Jones Jr. has had his stock dropped recently, and is no longer considered P4P greatness.
Michael Jordan even has detractors now. A lot of big time B-ball fans state Jordan was not the best, he was hyped up, allowed to break the rules to spark tension.
Soon Jon Jones will get the hype machine around him. He is the first UFC only 'Champion' who will fill out and move to heavy weight. He may have two long title runs in two solid divisions, and captivate future Fox fans.
Silva will lose speed. Unless he move up and gets more weight behind his punches he will start to slip by that time, and fans will then say he fought mediocre competition and 'was never that good.'
Sport fans are turds. MMA and UFC fans are no exception.
Discuss.
Lots of truth in those statements
Teh Spider - Fedor is 34 Anderson is 36. Anderson is UFC Champ while Fedor got cut from strikeforce, what is the problem?
Fedor started very early and had wars.
Not to mention, his judo and sambo competitions.
Hes not as athletic or whatever his body didn't take as kind of voyage anderson has taken. But I will show my kids one day what fedor did. Two fights made me begin training. Fedor Cro cop. And trigg Hughes first two fights my dad watched live.
Fedor will always have a big place in my heart. One day il hopefully say He's the reason I fought.
And ya in 10 years none will fight.
Gsp 5 Anderson maybe 2 years.
"Fedor started very early and had wars."
Anderson started earlier and Fedor was the least hit man in MMA along with Machida. Anderson had double knee surgeries while Fedor has never had any surgeries more major than for broken hand/toe.
RJJH - I hate how all of them will be forgotten. the worst part is people disrespecting them because of their accomplishments. shit like that pisses me off.
real fans of MMA should be telling their kids about the greatness of fedor and the likes. but it wont happen.
I agree, he was the greatest of his time and there is no arguing that, same with silva Jordan Ali rjj. And I also agree with ip
ABE FROMAN -Traditionalist - MMA and UFC fans are turds. Sports fans are no exception.* Fixed *
In retrospect, you may be right. UFC fans seem to be the biggest turds in all of sports. But Fox-UFC fans may claim that title if they strip GSP and Silva of their due respect.
Smith1234 - Fedor hasn't had the hardest matchups or schedule in the last 5 years, and he is not that old either.It isn't about how old u are it's about how long u have been fighting.
So why is Fedor fading already? I think it is b/c he is in the deep end for every fight, no breaks via the can or outsized opponent any more.