Is WEC's business model going to work much longer

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The revolution may be coming. We're not big on discussing the pay scale of fighters because so much of what the major stars make in UFC and WEC is off the books, or at least far from the public eye. But you'd have to imagine salaries of $35,000 (includes $10,000 Fight of the Night bonus) for their fight at WEC 41 rub WEC stars Mike Brown and Urijah Faber the wrong way. Do those guys deserve any less than Chuck Liddell, Anderson Silva, Brock Lesnar, Quinton Jackson and Georges St. Pierre? That fight helped draw a WEC record crowd of 13,067 in Sacramento and a big audience on Versus. Hell guys, like Brandon Vera and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira made six figures in their last fights.

Brown, a very reserved guy, won't say anything publicly but Faber and Miguel Torres, the WEC's bantamweight champ have already started dropping hints to the media and fans.


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 4 later. Faber & Brown deserve just as much as GSP, Hughes, etc....

Sagiv Lapkin -  4 later. Faber & Brown deserve just as much as GSP, Hughes, etc....



Not as much as GSP and hughes, CERTAINLY much more then brandon vera.

If Urijah Faber can headline a PPV that draws like 400K-600K buys, then he should be getting paid as much as GSP.

But I thought UFC fighters were getting paid shit and garbage too? So why compare it to them?

If WEC would get on Spike, I think it'd make a lot more $$$. And I don't think it would hurt the UFC in the slightest.

xcouturefan - But I thought UFC fighters were getting paid shit and garbage too? So why compare it to them? -thevileone



^^^who says this other than people posting here.


You almost never hear top fighters in the UFC complaining about money.


That's the fucking point.

Wiggy - If WEC would get on Spike, I think it'd make a lot more $$$. And I don't think it would hurt the UFC in the slightest.


 

 Nice to see Cofield using the superior access Yahoo writers get to do something other than sniff Dana's butt.



What it boils down to is: if WEC's business model continues to depend so heavily on live gates, and guys like Urijah Faber and Mike Brown are the real draw, their purses should be tied directly to the gate, so they get a good chunk of the money they are bringing in for the company. Lets be real here, Arco wasn't packed on Sunday because of "the WEC brand".

WEC will have to start paying fighters more. If someone like Faber leaves, they will have created a huge star for another promotion.

The $$$ for the UFC comes from PPV...

It will be tough to get as much as the UFC stars do since the WEC does not have PPV

He doesn't. He's a great fighter and he deserves a lot of money. But at the end of the day, not even we truly know how much he is making. All we know is what's reported from the state athletic commissions. We don't know how much he is getting from other revenue streams.

Simple economics... A fighter's worth is in direct proportion to how much revenue they can generate.

WEC pulls about half the live gate that UFC does. WEC is on free TV and UFC is on PPV...

Do the math.

A burger flipper at McDonalds, even though he is basically doing the same job, does not deserve the same pay as a 5 star master chef...

 I din't think they deserve what UFC headliners make, but if an event draws over 13,000 live gate and is on national TV, the headliners ought to be making well over $35,000.

"I din't think they deserve what UFC headliners make, but if an event draws over 13,000 live gate and is on national TV, the headliners ought to be making well over $35,000."

In order to make an objective arbitrary statement like that one would first need to know the overhead to revenue ratio...

What is the cost of renting the venue? Insurance? Commission fees? Officials fees? Advertising? Other fighter purses? Cage rental and workers?

Then we need to know what the actual income generated was in order to get a fair assessment of exactly what percentage of the net $35000.00 actually is.

 4l8r

ttt for Orion dropping some more knowledge

Every fighter gets what they agree on. It may not be the best pay or even good pay. If they agree to fight for that amount then why should anyone else be pissed about it? I don't make as much as I would like or even want. However I agree to work for this amount. If I don't want to anymore I either need to move to another company, if there is not other company then I need to find a new job.

It blows. There should be a minimum for the belts holders, at $50,000, but that's pretty low still, IMO.

Orion - "I din't think they deserve what UFC headliners make, but if an event draws over 13,000 live gate and is on national TV, the headliners ought to be making well over $35,000."



In order to make an objective arbitrary statement like that one would first need to know the overhead to revenue ratio...



What is the cost of renting the venue? Insurance? Commission fees? Officials fees? Advertising? Other fighter purses? Cage rental and workers?



Then we need to know what the actual income generated was in order to get a fair assessment of exactly what percentage of the net $35000.00 actually is.


 Actually, none of that should factor in. Guys like Brown and Faber aren't WEC employess, they are independent contractors, so what concern is it of theirs whether or not WEC is profitable?



Lets keep it simple here. How many seats do they sell at Arco without that main event? In this economy and without the leverage of a recognizable brand like UFC, I'm guessing not many. Frank Shamrock has a contract which is tied to the live gate when he fights at the HP Pavilion... Brown and Faber should be pointing to that and saying "I deserve the same type of deal".