no the people at the bar are scared of joe
The circumstances were much different for the guy who got killed. And it would be lottery odds that dude could have landed a punch that would do significant damage to JS. If thatās where the bar gets set then fighters can go around wiping people out for any kind of slight. Again, Iām not saying JS should stand there and take hits and do nothing about it. But clearly he wanted to hurt that guy. He could have easily ended it mundanely. Iām wondering if he had something to do with the filming of this, knowing what he was going to do.
Thereās an interesting part of Joeās story that it seems, for some reason, he failed to mention in his explanation. He brought up all sorts of reasons why he hit the guyā¦he was rapping at him, looking at him, used the n word, was rude to staff etc. He even says all the staff thanked him after he knocked the guy out.
Yet according to the police report, the manager says that the drunk guy said something insulting to/about a woman that was with Schilling and it pissed him off, escalating the whole situation. Joe never mentioned anything about that happening, or if he was even there with someone. Thatās oddā¦ Perhaps the manager was wrong, but it says all the staff corroborated the sequence of eventsā¦
Management was trying to put it on the dude, but management ended up implicating themselves in a civil lawsuit when they stated that this guy had caused problems several other times. Tie guyās lawyer can argue credibly that the bar knowingly allowed a situation to fester by continuing to serve him, knowing there was risk. Iām not a lawyer but that makes sense to me.
Exactly! There are people you want to do that to. Iāve wished I could knock out several people. Wanting to is understandable, but you donāt actually do it if you want to remain in polite society.
I donāt think I made my point clear enough: my points was that the sucker punch story shows how punches can absolutely kill somebody, and KOing somebody and letting them fall onto a hard floor can kill them. Joe had nothing to fear and he knows that. We all know that ā we saw the video. But, Joeās actions could have killed the guy.
When in doubt, listen to Wiggumās advice
Of course any punch can be deadly if the stars align, which is why I donāt take fighting lightly as Iāve gotten older and smarter. I donāt start yelling at people and flipping them off for being shitty drivers and so on. That said, a punch from Joe Schilling has a good probability of altering your life. He might be a journeyman pro, but even a .170 hitting baseball catcher would look like Babe Ruth on the slow pitch softball circuit.
Right. Thatās what Iām saying.
i agree he could have easilly had his head cracked open
For a pro fighter to do this is really not far off from a guy with a gun antagonizing drunk people, then when they confront him he shoots them in āself defenseā.
There are a million different ways a pro fighter could handle a situation like this if they were intent on āteaching a lessonā. Firing off a full force combo like itās a world title fight is not it.
Shilling going to jail
Canāt help but think that this feels like one of those scenarios where Joe knew about this guy maybe, was told stories, so he got his buddy to film saying āwatch what happens when he tries his shit on meā except the guy didnāt really try his shit and then Joe hit him anyway.
OK. So if youāre admitting he didnāt appear to expect to be punched, itās a sucker punch, an unexpected punch or blow, by definition.
Your mother must have drank a lot when she was pregnant with you.
No part of that was a sucker punch.
This is a very poor take on the words sucker punch. A sucker punch is what happens when Iāve had zero contact or communication with a person that hits me. Iām not expecting it because I have not interacted with them.
Itās not a sucker punch if Iām having an altercation that I donāt expect to turn physical because it doesnāt meet my personal standards for what should constitute throwing a punch.
Thatās called not being prepared to back up your words with actions.
Honestly, this is one of the shittiest semantics arguments Iāve read on here and thatās really saying something.
This is a very poor take on the words sucker punch. A sucker punch is what happens when Iāve had zero contact or communication with a person that hits me. Iām not expecting it because I have not interacted with them.
Itās not a sucker punch if Iām having an altercation that I donāt expect to turn physical because it doesnāt meet my personal standards for what should constitute throwing a punch.
Thatās called not being prepared to back up your words with actions.
Honestly, this is one of the shittiest semantics arguments Iāve read on here and thatās really saying something.
I appreciate you sharing your interpretation of the phrase, but Iām just going by its definition to keep things simple.
Schilling punched a man who didnāt expect to be hit. Thatās a sucker punch by definition. Please look it up if you need to verify.
Your mother must have drank a lot when she was pregnant with you.
Well, youāre a poo-poo head.
As the wise Sensei Johnny Lawrence once said, āThe best defense you can know, is more offenseā.
More importantly
Itās likely assault from a legal view