Jose Aldo has more of a claim to GOAT than Khabib

Mike Brown was #6 p4p when aldo beat him. That was twelve fucking years ago.

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How much does he charge for an hour with Hasbullah?

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I have to agree. 4 elite opponents out of 29 and alot of his wins were decisions fighting B-level fighters.

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Not one compelling argument posted about why khabib is better. Shocked.

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Highest current ELO Rating if you don’t count one (1) African Muslim.

Edit: Context.

Edit: More context.

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1000% legacy Aldo > Khabib

Ali said nobody wanted to fight him, then he had health issues and contemplated never fighting again. As of a few months ago he is looking to come back

Pretty fucking cool the way they put that together.

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That’s my guy MMA ELO. I’m trying to get him to do a new one.

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So you talking about the CEO of ELO and EPO? I kid I kid

That’s an interesting system and Video I’m going to have to research that criteria and watch it again.

Cool to see Fedor at #1 for 78 Consecutive Months.
The AKA boys DC and Khabib are at… 4 Months and 2 Months respectively… Interesting…

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He has one for only Lightweights if you want to watch that one. And one explaining how his ELO rating system works.

This one as well.

Guy’s a legitimate genius. He just does this as a hobby. I could probably do a whole post or write an article about what he’s doing. It’s fucking fascinating stuff. He uses his model to effectively predict who will win and how and uses it to make money off outcomes.

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Again. Zero compelling arguments for Khabib. Shocked I tell you! I’m SHOCKED!

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Spolier: It’s Khabib.

He’s statistically the best Lightweight in MMA history.

Source: See above.

Thanks for posting I will definitely check these out.

It can get subjective at times like for example accounting for the consequences or damage inflicted by Heavyweights vs every other weight class or vs WMMA so I am really interested to see what criteria he comes up and how he balances the intangibles of MMA aspects.

The thread should’ve just been this post and bunch of thumbs up. Not much else to discuss

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100000%. Khabib beat Able Trujillo and Kamal Shalarus though. He’s definitely the goat.

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The higher probability of being KO’d at heavyweight, light heavyweight, etc. (and by fighters with more KOs) is taken into account by his model when predicting fight outcomes. If that’s what you’re wondering. If not, feel free to clarify. Edit: I think it weighs what it thinks the likelihood of say a knockout happening is against the odds from various sportsbooks and tells you if you should bet on it or not.

From his ‘Elo Ratings and Win Attribution in MMA’ video he states that even judges/fans/media scorecards are taken into account when ultimately deciding one’s ELO Rating. It’s more in-depth than even I am able to understand.

He’s been tweaking it a ton lately which is why I’ve been goading him into making an updated ‘best fighters’ video both because of his new system and because of the emergence of guys like Kamaru and Francis in 2021.

Continuing discussion here.

I’ll leave this thread opened for Khabib slander.

What I meant was the dangers and risks of fighting at Heavyweight for example the consequences of fighting a Francis Ngannou are so much greater than any other weight class that it means something extra when you Reign for long periods of time. I was wondering how a system could account for something like that.

By comparison Amanda Nunes is allowed some room for error fighting a 135 pound woman but there is 0 room for error fighting at HW.

There are so many aspects to take into consideration when rating or comparing fighters or careers when they are different weights or sex. I am bias towards Heavyweights because I just think it is so much more dangerous than any other weight when you get a skilled Heavyweight. This is why the longest UFC Reign at HW was like 2 or 3 fights forever but every other weight class below it had long Reigns with some going double digits.

I think that means something extra when a HW enters the cage against another large and very skilled HW. There is just so much more at risk. It is the only weight class where every single fighter has KO power. There are some 205ers who don’t really hit that hard but not really when it comes to Heavyweight.

Sorry to ramble I hope that clarified what I was talking about. I know it is a lot of opinion and very subjective.

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Khabib was fighting a guy who was 0-0 whe he was 14-0

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