Jose Aldo has more of a claim to GOAT than Khabib

Ministry_of_Truth · September 29, 2022, 1:13pm

Yup. It’s pretty clear Khabib has accomplished more.

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the_decimator · September 29, 2022, 2:42pm

MasterofMartialArts:

the_decimator:

I would argue that Mr. Gray Maynard came close in their last two fights to taking Frankie out within the first round.

Fight 2
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And all the credit to Max during their bouts, but this detracts from Aldo. This doesn’t make Jose look better. He had a bad gameplan the first fight and didnt improve it for the rematch.

Again, I love Aldo. He was one of the most exciting figures in WEC history, had one hell of a title reign, but you cant just pick a segment of his career to make an argument. He had bad losses: knocked out (fucking Conor), 3 TKOs, a submission loss and a couple of decisions.

In short, he lost rounds and entire fights to several guys, he has wins and losses in two weight classes. I give him all the credit in the world for being competitive and dangerous every fight, but he has been outclassed on multiple occasions.

I’m sorry dude but you don’t know what you’re talking about. You seem cool enough but your argument just isn’t good. Your logic detracts from guys like Max, Frankie, DC, Anderson, Hughes, etc… all fighters who are considered some of the best in their respective weight classes.

These guys lost to some of the best fighters of their era. Frankie beat Gray in their trilogy, in the most definitive way, by stopping him. He was never outclassed, he was rocked and hurt. He came back in the second fight and made it to a draw. DC lost to Stipe 2x and DC was clearly past his prime in the third fight. Stipe is an all time great at HW. Anderson has plenty of losses. Hughes lost twice to both GSP and BJ, and none of those fights were particularly close. It doesn’t take away from Hughes’ accomplishments. I have him ranked the #2 welterweight of all time.

It’s unreasonable to discredit a guy’s resume because he has losses. It’s stupid in boxing and it’s even stupider in MMA. All of the guys I just listed are greats in the sport. Khabib and Jones are the only two UFC champs that have never lost. I guess you have a very short list.

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When you consider the vast amount of fighters that are considered greats in each era, you have to figure out criteria to whittle away at it.

In the early 2000’s, the list would consist of majority PRIDE fighters with the likes of Fedor to even Gomi. Cro cop, shogun, wandy, hendo, Nogueiras (big nog before lil nog), igor, saku. Etc. I can name like another 10 which would easily be considered greats at that time. Ufc - penn, hughes, gsp, silva, couture, chuck or tito, etc.

Fast forward, the next guard a decade or so later consisted of Cain, jones, weidman (it pains me to write that), tyron, frankie and smooth henderson, aldo, barao and dj. And thats just the ufc…

Then there is the current crop.

I have great/favorites from each generation. But picking a name for the top of the all time list includes refining your opinion which includes things like losses, damage taken, etc.

Matt Hughes, for example, one of my favorite fighters of all time. He would not make the list, he was a terrible striker and Colby would piece him up badly.

macgregorpics · September 29, 2022, 2:51pm

Aldo will retire with his honor intact.

the_decimator · October 1, 2022, 11:58pm

HOF status, UFC just confirmed

Congrats to a legend. I won many bets with him, many bets

RyannVonDoom · October 6, 2022, 4:04pm

Fuck yeah

Nick_Diaz_Army · October 6, 2022, 4:08pm

The ufc kinda fucked Jose Aldo over by giving TJ Dillashart the title shot over him. Aldo was on a three fight win streak while TJ just came back from a suspension and arguably didn’t even win his last fight

InspiritMick · October 6, 2022, 4:11pm

Also could bulk

Floppy_Divac · October 6, 2022, 4:49pm

Nope. Unlikely colby, Matt had power and his striking had come along later in his career

Nick_Diaz_Army · October 6, 2022, 4:56pm

Colby would he too fast for Matt

the_decimator · October 6, 2022, 7:48pm

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UFC 199

Trilogy fight

RenatoCocopreta · October 6, 2022, 8:33pm

Wtf is this? It looks so real.

Nick_Diaz_Army · October 6, 2022, 9:02pm

Penn Hughes 3 ufc 123 in my home state of Michigan

the_decimator · October 6, 2022, 9:26pm

Thanks vegeta, i don’t know why i said ufc 199

Idea Rocket Beans GIF by Game Two

Wasa-B · October 6, 2022, 10:22pm

Pretty unceramonious way to let Aldo go out like that.

_Skeletor · October 7, 2022, 6:04am

Prime Aldo WEC era would fuck Khabib up. Sorry to break it to you @JackMerridew @Nick_Diaz_Army

MasterofMartialArts · October 7, 2022, 1:04pm

Right?!? Not sure how that happened, one of the better false happiness moments of my MMA life.

RenatoCocopreta · October 7, 2022, 7:51pm

Yeah, I too prefer to think this is how a Hilo boy eats.

RyannVonDoom · February 25, 2023, 10:10pm

ttttttt

Nick_Diaz_Army · February 25, 2023, 10:13pm

RyannVonDoom · February 25, 2023, 10:15pm

Jones naming himself lol