Aldo by leaps and bounds. I read most of the comments, seems like the general consensus of this thread agrees, there isnât anything I can say that hasnât already been said. Aldo is more of legend then khabib will ever be. If you ask the media you would unfortunately get a completely different answer. Khabibs been shoved down everyoneâs throats for awhile now, even after retirement.
I hope Aldo gets another chance at gold. Unfortunately, I think Yan is in his prime right now, Aldo becoming a two division champ doesnât look good, still tho, hes one of the greatest to ever do it. Hope he keeps fighting and winning, itâs always entertaining to see him get in there.
Penn competed in BJJ at 147 lbs at times and had several fights at FW in the UFC. So sometimes Cruz and Penn were only 10 lbs apart in terms of their competitive weight.
I was highlighting how difficult it is to compare various fighters due to the differences in their careers and challenged they faced regarding weight advantages and disadvantages.
You guess GSP is not much smaller than DC? I guess you attempt at an analogy failed.
Cruz and Penn sometimes weighted in 10 lbs apart while in the UFC.
GSP and DC sometimes weighted in 65 lbs apart while in the UFC.
GSP talked about making 155 lbs while DC made his MMA debut at 250 lbs but great comparison there buddy, you got me.
Thatâs the guy the UFC just cut, right?
Thatâs the guy the UFC just cut, right?
Sure. But, they were at different times. The UFC eventually cutting someone isnât super relevant.
It is sort of strange how people point to Khabibâs dominance in regards to the Aldo comparison.
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ALL of the champions that are in the GOAT discussion are dominant - thatâs why they are in the conversation.
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Jose Aldo was supremely dominant in his title reign - there were obviously times where he wasnât. He gassed and was mounted by Hominick in the 5th round of their fight. Mendes was competitive with him and even took a couple of rounds. By large, he looked pretty untouchable at 145.
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There are obviously levels of dominance - Aldo wasnât as dominant as Jones or even Anderson during their respective reigns. However there is a point of diminishing returns - Khabib only defended his belt 3 times and just the fact that he was so dominant doesnât usurp the sheer resume, dominance, and longevity that Aldo has displayed.
Years ago these debates were very uncommon on the UG. People are buying into the UFC hype machine and itâs mostly casual fans.
Such a great thread. Aldo dominated so many greats, some in devastating fashion. I think Khabin is great, but he didnt âcleanâ put his division the way GSP, Silva, Mighty Mouse, and imho, Aldo. Aldo unfortunately let Conor get in his head before their fight and it showed how human he is. Aldo > Khabib
Had to give that a VU because itâs funny as hell
Your ability to detect sarcasm uncanny. It was a shot at you for comparing Cruz and Penn. Iâm the one who thinks theyâre not that similar in size. Same goes for GSP and DC, even though GSP has said he walks around over 195 at times in his career and DC has fought at 205. Terrible reference and zero to do with Khabib having to claim to GOAT status
Past few Yrs sarcasm is totally lost on these millennial tardzzz.
And u fell like u are stooping to their level if we take the baitâŚ
Fuck them and their gender fluid generation
Im in the Aldoâs body of work is far superior camp.
However, they have one common opponent.
Also got knocked out cold by McGregor
Khabib destroyed McGregor.
Still think Khabib lacks the longevity to be compared to GSP or Fedor or Jones.
He easily could have slowed down over time, injuries, lack of drive to continue, someone solving him, all possibilities. A great wrestler with crazy power could have emerged over time and beaten him.
He also was huge for 155 but never moved up to 170
Tbf, I donât believe the Conor going into the Khabib fight was the same prepared fighter going into the Aldo fight. But obviously thatâs debatable.
Oh, I know it was a shot at me for comparing Cruz and Penn. All Iâm saying is you comparing what I said about Cruz and Penn to GSP and DC is a horrible comparison. Like I said, Cruz and Penn sometimes competed just 10 lbs apart in their UFC careers and GSP and DC competed anywhere from 35 lbs to 65 lbs apart in their UFC careers.
To me its not a terrible reference as when talking GOATS⌠careers are very different with several variables so its important to keep that in mind.
Past few Yrs sarcasm is totally lost on these millennial tardzzz.
And u fell like u are stooping to their level if we take the baitâŚ
Fuck them and their gender fluid generation
I think you mean Gen Z buddy.
Im in the Aldoâs body of work is far superior camp.
However, they have one common opponent.
Also got knocked out cold by McGregor
Khabib destroyed McGregor.
Still think Khabib lacks the longevity to be compared to GSP or Fedor or Jones.
He easily could have slowed down over time, injuries, lack of drive to continue, someone solving him, all possibilities. A great wrestler with crazy power could have emerged over time and beaten him.
He also was huge for 155 but never moved up to 170
Yeah but Conor was always gonna be a bad matchup for Aldo. Heâs also substantially bigger. Khabib is the most dominant wrestler weâve seen in recent history so itâs not surprising he took down Conor and mauled him. Styles make fights and nobody could stop Khabibâs takedowns.
Khabib definitely would have slowed down and eventually lost. He didnât have to reinvent himself the way Aldo has. Thatâs just the nature of the game. Nobody can out slick Father Time. They can only retire early to make it seem like they did.
Tbf, I donât believe the Conor going into the Khabib fight was the same prepared fighter going into the Aldo fight. But obviously thatâs debatable.
Itâs definitely debatable but I agree. I would never make any excuses for Conor simply because Khabib was the better guy, and he dominated him. But Conor stopped doing what got him to the dance and focused solely on wrestling defense/scrambles/escapes. He and Jon even admitted not actually working much offensive striking.
Thatâs a big mistake. If we saw a sober, focused and smart Conor in that same time period, itâs a much different fight. Conor had already done better against Khabib than anyone else up to that point. He could obviously still get mauled, but itâs likely more competitive.