Rhasaan Orange Fan - He was in the UFC for 8 years. That is 175K per year. How is that a bad salary to have for a mid level fighter?
Leben doesnt get to reitre at 65 like 99 percent of the population...
Brandon rios, the boxing equivalent of leben got 925k just to show in his last fight... i know i know, comparing boxing to mma is bs and what not. But really, its its not like rios is a monster draw... fact is 90 percent of ufc fighters are underpaid
Hate to beat a dead horse but.........
"fact is 90 percent of ufc fighters are underpaid"
How much does their contract say they will compete for? And how much less than that were they paid? Any example will do. Thanks.
Cindy
Funny you bring it up. The contracts are so one sided and what happens when you fight to make the contract somewhat favorable for yourself? Your boy dana the hatchetman comes outto break down the credibility and leverage of the fighter.
Yep, totally.
I guess what Cindy is saying here, is that fighters should form an union to have more bargaining power and better contractual conditions.
gokudamus - Before taxes? I'm not one to complain about fighter salaries but when you hear about guys like Wanderlei making multi millions it all seems kind of arbitrary.
It comes down to this:
The amount of money a fighter makes for Zuffa.
The more people pay to see a fighter on the card, the more money the fighter will make. Negotiation comes into play, but regardless, you'll always make more when you can put asses in the seats and bring in high PPV numbers.
Leben made what did relative to the amount of money he made for Zuffa. Same with Wanderlei. People love watching Silva (and will pay to see him fight) so it makes sense he would make much more.
gokudamus - Before taxes? I'm not one to complain about fighter salaries but when you hear about guys like Wanderlei making multi millions it all seems kind of arbitrary.
It comes down to this:
The amount of money a fighter makes for Zuffa.
The more people pay to see a fighter on the card, the more money the fighter will make. Negotiation comes into play, but regardless, you'll always make more when you can put asses in the seats and bring in high PPV numbers.
Leben made what did relative to the amount of money he made for Zuffa. Same with Wanderlei. People love watching Silva so it makes sense he would make much more.
Are you saying leben only brought that much to zuffa? If you are saying that, i'm not sure how you can type that bullshit out with a straight face.
gokudamus - Before taxes? I'm not one to complain about fighter salaries but when you hear about guys like Wanderlei making multi millions it all seems kind of arbitrary.
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<span class="User-246904" id="userPost51240680">It comes down to this:</span></p>
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<span class="User-246904" id="userPost51240680">The amount of money a fighter makes for Zuffa.</span></p>
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<span class="User-246904" id="userPost51240680">The more people pay to see a fighter on the card, the more money the fighter will make. Negotiation comes into play, but regardless, you'll always make more when you can put asses in the seats and bring in high PPV numbers.</span></p>
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<span class="User-246904" id="userPost51240680">Leben made what did relative to the amount of money he made for Zuffa. Same with Wanderlei. People love watching Silva so it makes sense he would make much more.</span></p>
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<span class="User-246904" id="userPost51240680">Are you saying leben only brought that much to zuffa? If you are saying that, i'm not sure how you can type that bullshit out with a straight face. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>
No. You don't get paid the amount you bring in. That wouldn't make sense. Of course you make much more for the company than what you get paid.
If Leben would of started his career a few years later he would of made more. He was an entertaining fighter bit like others said he was a mid level guy. He had a great career and hopefully the UFC can find him something to do now to keep him out of trouble.
and lol@people trying to pass him off as some mediocre, no-name fighter..yes, he wasnt a world beater, but he was a big reason why the ufc became successful and he was one of the toughest fighters in the history of the UFC...he also has the most UFC fights in MW history
thegreenroom - U guys are looking at incorrectly. Yes it's a lot to everyday citizens like me and you.
But u have to judge that number based on the revenues the UFC made during his fights, and how much of that was pulled in because of lebens draw. I don't know what the answer is, but seems low to me. Especially when his highlights are shown a lot..... Anderson fight, Wanderlei fight, etc.
I don't base my salary on my companies revenue. My salary is based on my value to the company. That's basic business.
gokudamus - and lol@people trying to pass him off as some mediocre, no-name fighter..yes, he wasnt a world beater, but he was a big reason why the ufc became successful and he was one of the toughest fighters in the history of the UFC...he also has the most UFC fights in MW history
thegreenroom - U guys are looking at incorrectly. Yes it's a lot to everyday citizens like me and you.
But u have to judge that number based on the revenues the UFC made during his fights, and how much of that was pulled in because of lebens draw. I don't know what the answer is, but seems low to me. Especially when his highlights are shown a lot..... Anderson fight, Wanderlei fight, etc.
I don't base my salary on my companies revenue. My salary is based on my value to the company. That's basic business.
I'm an underground coal miner. The company I work for is worth 4.5 billion. I operate the miner which is the highest paid equipment operated in the mines. They just cut my salary to around 80,000. I work 60 hrs a week. It's not quite as glamorous as fighting, but it feeds the kids.
Pat Giles - Is that not a lot? I remember in high school one of my math teachers said he had just made a million dollars from teaching, he had been there over 30 years. I guess I'm missing the point.
It doesn't matter if it seems like a lot to you or I. When you compare his earnings to other professional athletes both inside and outside of MMA, his pay is extremely low. He headlined PPV's and was featured on national TV and fought for the UFC for nearly a decade.
Not really that different though, because you have teams that have the same value of a company as Zuffa, and have to pay far less athletes. Hell, lets take the Clippers, who just sold for around the same price Zuffa is valued at, their payroll last year was 82 million for 18 players. Which makes an average salary of 4.5 million dollars a year (Actually salaries varied from 20 million to $507,000). If you turned that same salary # it would average out to around $182,000/year per fighter or at an average of 3 fights per year. $60,000 per fighter per fight. Which if you applied it to UFC 178 would add approxamatley $20,000 overall to the overall pay of the card. And the discrepency between the top and bottom actually is smaller than it is in the NBA.
I think the best idea is to probably trim the roster by about 150 fighters and then you can easily up the pay by about 10-15%
UFC has more then 18 "players"
They also don't pay their fighters 82 million a year...
Wow that much? Good for him For a guy who's greatest talent is getting hit in the head and continuing to come forward for more, he won life's lottery. I can't imagine that guy holding down a steady job, let alone EVER approaching a fraction of the money he made in the UFC. . I guess we'll find out now that he's got to rely on his education and skill set the rest of the way out. But again good for him. Very few of us get an opportunity to cash in like he has.
I don't have the figures in front of me, but didn't someone write a post a while back claiming the teams in the 4 major sports pay up to half of their profit to the players, whereas the UFC pays like 10%. Anyone have the info?
