Even though he got crushed in round 2. I still think he has the best chance to beat Jones. With that said Jones is only probably going to be a lot better the next time they meat and Lyoto is only going to be a bit older.
Lyoto has the most unorthodox striking at LHW and it definitely catches guys off guard. In MMA anything is possible but I have a hard time believing the guys that haven't fought him yet will bring anything new to the table.
unclewang - a close round with limited success, follwed by having your forehead opened and finished in a cumpled mess is the key to beating Jon Jones.<br type="_moz" />How dare the guy have confidence in his abilities and set a lofty goal for himself... What an arrogant prick.
Only reason he looked good in the first rd is because Jon was hesitant. It was due to Jones, not Machida. When Jones grew confident and cut him off, he smoothered him with ease.<br /><br />Next time he'll do it from the beginning.
(It's also silly to state that Machida somehow outstruck Jones, considering that the only one dropping someone in that fight was Jones, and he followed up with a finish)
ausgepicht -Don't forget that after Shogun/Machida 1 that he said he felt he lost. Then, months later, on the Countdown to the rematch Machida said he clearly won and had his dad and brother bolstering his claims.Brian Peppers - People aren't remembering this fight correctly. Machida barely won a close a 10-9 round at BEST. He never had Jones in any semblance of trouble at all. I honestly scored it 10-10.This.
But I get it now...it's marketing....I hope. If it's not, he revision of how the fight unfolded is out of touch with reality. To describe himself as superior is urine on the brain.
X_Rated -LilBrockonmychest -lthen I guess Machida decisively beat Shogun and lost to Rampage as well, right? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>ds1970 - It was Machida's unique style that helped him win that first round. Not everyone can do that.
edit: nevermind, he's talking about his next fight with Jones and not other challengers against Jones.
Except he didn't win the 1st round. The UG's opinion doesn't hold too much weight. 2 of the 3 judges gave it to Jones
Touche!!!
Joe Sons nuts - Only reason he looked good in the first rd is because Jon was hesitant. It was due to Jones, not Machida. When Jones grew confident and cut him off, he smoothered him with ease.<br /><br />Next time he'll do it from the beginning.
(It's also silly to state that Machida somehow outstruck Jones, considering that the only one dropping someone in that fight was Jones, and he followed up with a finish)
Jones being hesitant has nothing to with the machida's fighting style?? GTF out of here.
no he didnt.. he maybe won the first round. he managed to hit jones a couple of times before getting annihilated
i really wanted him to win too but my abiding impression of the fight was that jones was even better than i thought
So why in combat sports the first round, out, whatever is known as the "Feeling out round?" That's what happens when pros get up there and war. They get a feeling of timing and distance, what the other guy is capable of.
What happened in Couture vs. Toney? Couture naturally wanted nothing of Toney standing and did the wise thing, took him down right away. We've seen this before.
However, Jones WANTED to trade with Machida. Machida just seemed to get the best of it.
When Jones WANTED Machida down, he took him down and dented his skull. When he wanted to clinch, he clinched. First real sub attempt = sunk.
I didn't see Jones "timid" in this fight especially in light of his other fights where people think he's freaking out before hand and then he methodically dismantles the opponents. If anything I'd say it's the pressure of being on national TV live that causes him to do deep, meditative breathing that is construed as nerves.
What Machida perceives as "the key to beat Jones" has one huge component to it - Jones being willing to engage in the other person's strength.
Surely if Jones wanted to clinch to takedown to GnP or clinch to sub earler, the results would have likely been similar. I still feel Machida is misinterpreting Jones feeling him out, vs. Machida winning rd 1 because he somehow dictated the fight stay a peek-a-boo strikefest.
Just rewatched round 1 on youtube. By far, Jones was the one initiating the majority of the action, pressing Machida. After Jones' initial flurry combo 2-3 strikes, Machida would sometimes press Jones back, but I would say easily Jones had ring generalmanship. Machida, because of that one exchange, maybe another, had the more effective strikes although Jones did land a couple somewhat glancing blows.
Jones never tried to clinch, threw a knee instead when it was that close IIRC, never tried a takedown, etc. The guy has a body type for striking, but his strength is clearly in the clinch, great strikes and takedowns from it and top pressure GnP... none of which he remotely tried to impose in round 1.
So yeah, if the 'key' to beating someone is keeping them out of their strengths, that's an old message. However, there is a big difference between that and someone else simply choosing to stay in a different range.
The only thing great about Jones' stand up is his reach. Machida made Jones look very ordinary in the 1st. That being said, when Jones gets hold of his opponent, it's a different kettle of fish. Rashad perhaps holds the key abilities to succeed, speed and wrestling.
JBJ also found the path to beat Machida. He picked him up and sat him on his butt like he was a 5 year old kid and cracked him open with the first strike. I was surprised at just how easily JBJ was able to take him down. Rashad and Couture never came close to completing a takedown.
wait in the long line
Man, imagine the hate towards JBJ if he would have said something like this after getting his ass kicked in the 2nd round.
Filo_Beto -Joe Sons nuts - Only reason he looked good in the first rd is because Jon was hesitant. It was due to Jones, not Machida. When Jones grew confident and cut him off, he smoothered him with ease.<br /><br />Next time he'll do it from the beginning.
(It's also silly to state that Machida somehow outstruck Jones, considering that the only one dropping someone in that fight was Jones, and he followed up with a finish)
Jones being hesitant has nothing to with the machida's fighting style?? GTF out of here.
I didn't say that. It did. Once Jones got comfortable thou Machida didn't have anything to offer. He smoked him, bad.
T Bag - Man, imagine the hate towards JBJ if he would have said something like this after getting his ass kicked in the 2nd round.Exactly.
Machida is closer to getting cut than he is another title shot.
1-3 in your last 4. Worry about getting a win, not reminicing about that one significant punch you landed on Jones.
if the tool is being choked out and then dropped to the canvas.....i guess machida has figured it out