EXACTLY
Shen nails the correct like always
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in fairness Carlson was not stuck in the Gracie self defense stuff so much
For sure.
Itās primarily family members of the mainline Helio lineage that basically took a sacred vow to always teach the self-defense techniques, as is.
Every other aspect of jiu jitsu evolves and changes I guess, but the āself-defenseā curriculum is absolutely PERFECT and must not be altered or questioned!
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Iāve heard that. Iād rather have Renner or Ryron next to me if should SHTF.
I think Danaher is a genius who thinks out of the box and is not limited by the Gracie Jiu Jitsu traditions that Gracie family members are, but Gordon, Tonon and many of his top guys are physically superior athletes so is it his teaching or their attributes? Like Carlson, whoās majority of top guys were physical beasts but less technical ie: Sperry, Liborio, Bitteti, Vitor. He had a few smaller frame guys like De La Riva, Busta, etc. The Gracieās were all about teaching your average guy to defend himself against a larger stronger opponent on the street or in Vale tudo not winning sport BJJ comps. Even Carlson rated MMA much more important than BJJ comps or no-gi.
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FYI, Danaher has an entire set of instructionals for no-gi as well as an entire set of instructionals for gi. I feel like his no-gi stuff may get more marketing b/c of his association with Gordan Ryan, etcā¦
Gordon is a superior athlete? In what sense? I donāt think Iāve seen him make an explosive movement in the past 5 years.
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The guard is so closely associated with BJJ that itās become the defacto BJJ technique, if you will.
Lots of other arts have the same submissions, throws, takedowns, etcā¦ Only BJJ has developed the guard(s) as extensively as an actual position. So when people do BJJ, they naturally gravitate towards what differentiates it from everything else.
It always seems to come back to Rolls though when you look at success in gi championships
When you consider that of his famous five black belts you have Alliance via āoriginalā Jacare and then Roger via Mauricio Gomes - and arguably his stated influence on Renzo leading to Danaher/Gordonā¦
And these are all two, three steps in the lineage - itās not even like itās long forgotten lineage that could be argued didnāt influence it directoy
Sperry not technical?
Wow
Agreed.
Im a huge Sperry fan along with Fabio Gurgel and Bustamante so I would not speak bad of him but he was super strong. Of that era of Carlson guys I thought Liborio and Busta were more technical
Heard Liborio was a gifted, technical master.
For a while he was talked about a lot as being the next best thing after Rickson.
I have watched the brothersā videos and Danaherās and Danaher is by far the most comprehensive of the bunch. As others have said, his mind is just intuitive to BJJ. Danaher is just a step above other professors IMO. He consistently provides those small tidbits of information that can level up your approach to even the most basic of techniques.
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Isnāt there a story about wrecking Arona after coming to training from his finance dayjob as a retired competitor when Arona was reigning ADCC champ or something
Never heard it but Iād believe it.
Dan Lambert on Liborio vs Marcelo Garcia:
āā¦you know if you ask me if those two competed in the gym in a friendly match at the gym and nobody was watching you know Liborio would win. If they competed in a tournament Iād put my money on Marcelo Garcia all day and you know Liborio probably would too.ā
āā¦I remember being at the gym one day when Liborio was training with Jeff Monson and just submitting him 10 times in 5 minutes and then as soon as the match was over I said āhey Libo if you guys competed in the final of ADCC tomorrow what do you think would happen?ā He said Jeff would win two nothing.ā
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Great info . Dan Lambert had obviously seen it all . I think itās fair to say he knows what heās talking about . Thanks for that