I've been teaching little kids for a long time. Currently, I'm working on a commitee studying "how boys learn and the problem with boys in school". Psychologists have proven that exposure to violent video games can desensitize individuals to real-life violence. American children and adults have become more and more desensitized to violence.
As I stated in the other thread, I've been teach kids all elements of "mixed martial arts"
separately for years.
I recently got a preschool class to include wrestling as a learning center. The teacher told the board that in drastically cut down the fighting in her class. Kids wrestle and "play Judo" at recess, with very specific rules and my supervision.
I do show them videos of wrestling, MMA(only to older kids), BJJ and Judo (whenever they see Rhadi, they think it's me!) I actually taught a no-gi Judo for kids summer camp, for we could not afford judogis.
I don't think the comparison to porn is accurate.
I think the individual elements of MMA can be taught and viewed by kids of any age, as long as there is a knowledgeable adult there to educate them.
The key point is "educated" adult!
A student and his dad wanted me to teach their son MMA, but the mom thought it was "streetfighting" as do many other uneducated adults. So, if adults with an educated eye perceive MMA to be "streetfighting", then of course an uneducated child can.
So, if the argument is "without proper supervision and education, children will perceive MMA as pure violent streetfighting" or watching violence(striking in sports or violence in movies and video games) can desensitize children. I agree. Science agrees.
I think only children at a certain maturity level should watch MMA. The actual age is specific to the individual child.
But clearly, movies and video games and in my school district, "real life" has more of detrimental effect on children than MMA, for MMA is done in a sportive environment.
Yet, if one bans MMA from their child's viewing, then they should also ban: hockey, NFL, video games and PG movies.
I don't think too many people can disagree with that.
But to equate MMA with porn...?
I had a problem with "gangs" in my school. Kids were getting members to jump other individual students. I used MMA as an example honorable sportive competition. One on one, highly skilled, highly trained men competing. I stated that only cowardly "punks" gang up on one person. There is no honor in that. And if they wanted to fight, they needed to first train and gain skill and fight one on one in a sportive environment.
It seems to be working well. Everyone wants to go to "Crown boxing gym", wrestle or begin learning TKD now. No more gang fighting. We'll see.
Personally, I feel there is a lot of anger and resentment towards MMA from "some" people who come from traditional combative sports backgrounds(wrestling, boxing, BJJ, Judo, Sambo, Kickboxing). They resent the mainstream popularity of MMA. Especially, when they see people who participated in their individual sport, yet were not high level, but able to become very successful in MMA. Boxing people see these guys with "bad" technique, become MMA icons, wrestlers see guys who couldn't win a gold medal become millionaires, Judokas see guys who couldn't win a gold medal become the face of judo to the mainstream, the traditional GJJ guys disown MMA for the rule changes, time limits and crosstraining and the traditional martial artist ....well we know.
I would argue that MMA has done more for the landscape of traditional combative sports than anything in the history of martial arts. I think more kids are entering wrestling, judo, BJJ, boxing, and kickboxing due to MMA.
It's just my guess, for we don't know what the numbers would be if there never was a UFC.
Nowaydo,
Beautifully articulated, researched righteousness.
Osaekomi - Nowaydo,
Beautifully articulated, researched righteousness.
Q... i guess youll have to figure out of the comparison to porn was serious or not... enjoy that one.
remember, Tucker said it best when he said "a dad's main job in life is to keep his daughter off the pole."
I dont think Judo would work in a nogi comp but on an interesting note there was a fella from Canada, Pat Bolger, who was ranked 3rd and 4th in the world in both Judo and Wrestling. Both in the same year...1973 of course.lol
"I dont think Judo would work in a nogi comp"
Kikuta disagrees, as does the guy who took second to him..Saulo Ribeiro.
For sure sry, I meant that judo wouldn't work for in a nogi judo competition.
You need the gi to keep even somewhat similar to judo just like GR wouldnt work if there were attack to the legs allowed.
Although I am a HUGE fan of judo for mma I'm not such a fan for it in nogi grappling. The strikes, fence/ropes and game of power seems to benefit the judo for mma game huge imo compared to nogi grappling.
I love judo in MMA
Judo is so dynamic that it adds a whole dimension to mma. Besides a knockout punch, throws can take alot out of an opponent. I root for judo guys in mma but am not a proponent. Gi judo is my passion and watch it whenever I can. No-gi judo is not judo to me but is grappling and we have NAGA for that.
"No-gi judo is not judo to me"
Define Judo.
I for one feel that if you only define judo by the sport, you have missed the entire lesson.
I define it by following the elite players and what they have to do(international competition all over the world). They define what it is and make the sport what it is, gi judo.
"I define it by following the elite players and what they have to do"
I see...So you live vicariously..I understand the problem now..Have a great day.
That is an awful, myopic perspective of judo in my opinion.
fwiw, all my MMA students do "no gi judo" leg attacks, hip throws arm throws, pickups..etc
Judo is not a gi to me or a match or medals.
It's science.
It's a science that can be expressed with a gi, without a gi, in a t-shirt or parka...
judoblackbelt - I define it by following the elite players and what they have to do(international competition all over the world). They define what it is and make the sport what it is, gi judo.
For sure. He has to be talking comp judo as it is for Olys.
chooy721 - I love judo in MMAAgreed. Judoka for mma to me and this is so very general of course, are like wrestlers that know decent bjj.:) I can't think of a tuffer fella to scrap.
nowaydo - Judo is not a gi to me or a match or medals.
It's science.
It's a science that can be expressed with a gi, without a gi, in a t-shirt or parka...
Agreed. If you need a gi, you been fighting too many judoka:)
I enjoy watching all throws whether they are in BJJ/NO gi/ mma/gi. The ultimate judo for me is in its present form. Elimination of kokas and the new rules have removed some of the static/defensive tactics opening the door for more dynamic action.
I wonder what Okano would say to that... especially considering that he advocates taking the gi off from time to time.
Judo is an idea, a theory. How it is applied matters on the people, not their dress. Kano performed Judo in formal Japanese attire (akin to our 3-piece suits), yet it was till Judo.
"... Kano performed Judo in formal Japanese attire (akin to our 3-piece suits), yet it was till Judo. .."
Beautiful example, Josh!
My first experience "seeing" judo was watching old movies when I was a kid. The Judokas almost always had a dress suit on. I hadn't thought about that in years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqjBMhV4uSM