I noticed JDS has opened as the favorite and everyone is picking him to win.
It's funny how many people mistake what they want to happen with what is likely to happen. Despite how one may want to spin it, this is a classic striker vs. wrestler matchup, with the wrestler in this case being enormous and the striker having questionable takedown defense. What's more, JDS has shown nothing to indicate that he can handle 3 rounds with Brock on top of him. If you're wise you'll put your money on Lesnar. JDS has never faced wrestler in his entire career b/c theyre trying to build his hype
I think the same will happen to JDS as the other non-wrestlers that Brock beat. He'll be taken down at will. I have very little faith that JDS can pull off that hail-mary punch before he gets dumped on his rear even despite Brock's poor reaction to getting hit.
JDS has proven he can defend a TD from Roy Nelson (he also got power doubled by a can, BJJ fighter a few years back and controlled on the ground in a fight he lost before joining the UFC), but that's a pretty far stretch from a real wrestler, much less Brock Lesnar, who was even able to TD elite wrestlers like Couture, Cain and Carwin.
He'll easily TD JDS,and finish him on the ground like he did with Mir and Carwin. Remember Brock already beat Mir (and Carwin) on the ground when Brock was a lot more inexperienced than he is now... and JDS is not Mir on the ground.
Yet all of a sudden people are questioning Brock's finishing ability from the top?
Even if JDS makes it to the end of the round, he'll be even easier for Brock to TD the next round and the zip will be taken out of his punches because of punishment he endured. Look at how he faded in the Nelson fight.
To me it appears the UFC has been matching JDS with guys who can't take him down to hype him up for a big fight like we are seeing with Brock.
I don't really care who wins between these two though but you can bet I'll be banking on Brock to win just like I made a killing when I bet on Cain in Brock's last fight.
I think Lesnar will win the fight, as well.
Good post. :)
I agree. When will people begin to notice this oft-ignored quiet guy from Minnesota?! 
Much as I dislike Brock, OP is correct.
Hype v hype
If he can get a TD Brock wins
I would who would win Brock vs Duffee
fastrack - brock spazzes out too much
he's gonna come running out, get hit in the face, fall down and get finished
Even against Cain and Carwin who had the wrestling to keep the fight standing Lesnar was able to attempt repeated TD attempts until he eventually went down and turtled up because they had the wrestling to block his TD's.
In JDS's case, even if he manages to connect a few times like Mir did in the second fight, he'll be taken down immediately after like Mir did because he does not have that wrestling base.
ChokeEmOut - And this is also a wrestler who shits his paints and tucks tail and runs like he's French when a punch comes within an inch of hitting him. JDS by humiliating beatdown. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Interesting fabrication, but you must not be paying attention to the fact that Cain and Carwin were the only two get Brock in the comprising turtled up position on the ground, and in order to do so they had to block 'numerous' Lesnar TD's... numerous. Something they were able to do because of their wrestling.
Refer back to what happened to the non wrestlers who fought against Brock and got taken down at will even despite the fact that they may have landed a few.
Eh I still think he's gunna get steam rolled. Bummer too cause I was just becoming a fan, Brock just doesn't know how to react to punches. He got away with it against Randy and a couple guys, but the top of the food chain competition like he's facing now is just too much. Dana hasn't been doing him any favors, I respect that, but I just think he's still too tough for his own good.
NHB USA - Eh I still think he's gunna get steam rolled. Bummer too cause I was just becoming a fan, Brock just doesn't know how to react to punches. He got away with it against Randy and a couple guys, but the top of the food chain competition like he's facing now is just too much. Dana hasn't been doing him any favors, I respect that, but I just think he's still too tough for his own good.It's pretty short sighted to think Cain and Carwin only beat Brock due to Brock's reaction to punches because they were 'Top of the FoodChain'. It's because they were wrestlers who were ABLE to stand and punch rather than be taken down to the ground like JDS will be... where it's much harder to throw punches ;)
Yeah people forget that Brock actually took Cain down as well.
Cain used butterfly guard and swept from there which is so freaking rare in MMA, even for smaller BJJ blackbelt ADCC champs. I just about shit a brick when I saw him do that.
If he hadn't been able to do that, it would have looked liked other Lesnar fights - being squashed and pounded on by a gorilla.
So can JDS avoid it ?
FingerorMoon -
Yeah people forget that Brock actually took Cain down as well.
Cain used butterfly guard and swept from there which is so freaking rare in MMA, even for smaller BJJ blackbelt ADCC champs. I just about shit a brick when I saw him do that.
If he hadn't been able to do that, it would have looked liked other Lesnar fights - being squashed and pounded on by a gorilla.
So can JDS avoid it ?
He didnt sweep at all, he just used basic hand control and butterfly guard to stand back up. Pretty commonly taught in a BJJ enviroment, hopefull JDS will have some BJJ guy help him work on it..............
lol @ brock's takedowns
inf0 - lol @ brock's takedowns
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Member since 02? You should be ashamed of yourself.
Do you think it's a small feat to take down every non wrestler you face at will and even be able to take down the likes of Carwin, Cain and Couture in a fight? Three elite wrestlers?
OveREEMed A New Butthole - Brock's take downs aren't anything special.
JDS has great distancing, take down defense, lots of speed and he is very strong, maybe even as strong as Brock is now in functional strength.
http://i.imgur.com/0OAi3.jpg
Yeah a div 1 NCAA wrestling champion who made it as far as he did because of his power double and was able to TD every non wrestler he faced at will in the UFC, and even be able to take down the likes of Carwin, Cain and Couture, three elite wrestlers, during the course of their fights is 'nothing special'.
Tell me more.
I'm sure JDS, the striker, who has never faced a wrestler before in his career and who was power doubled by BJJ fighter and controlled on the ground and beaten a few years back is going to have Brock's TD's on lock down.
Bravo.
30+ posts a day, you are certainly setting a strong pace.
stlnl2 - 30+ posts a day, you are certainly setting a strong pace.
Yeah when Brock haterade campaign starts failing start finding something else to pick related to post count or join date ;)
I dont have a dog in the fight, just saying, you seem to be having a busy weekend.
FingerorMoon -
Yeah people forget that Brock actually took Cain down as well.
Cain used butterfly guard and swept from there which is so freaking rare in MMA, even for smaller BJJ blackbelt ADCC champs. I just about shit a brick when I saw him do that.
If he hadn't been able to do that, it would have looked liked other Lesnar fights - being squashed and pounded on by a gorilla.
So can JDS avoid it ?
I did shit a brick. I sat there with my jaw on the ground when I saw Cain do that.
If JDS stuffs one take down or last through Brocks opening swarm he wins easy. The min he touches Brock he will fall on the ground and crawl into a ball and wait for the red to save him.