Personal Trainers - Diet ????'s

Wanted to get your imput on a high carb diet for a pro athlete. As long as protien requirements are mainttained (drinks, and food). I tried it once before and moderated my carb intake after 4pm more of a 40/40/20 after 4pm. and lost 5% bodyfat within 2 weeks as it allowed me to work harder and longer with the increased energy (IMO). from 5 am to 4pm i do a constant 60/20/20 carb/protein/efa diet that has worked wonders. I don't have the time to work on nutritional as i am working on other cert's and degrees but wnated to get your imput. also - what's your input on strength/power/and cardio all in the same workout. shorter workout obviously but alot more intense.


I successfully did the cabbage diet (hospitol method for extreme fat loss for surgery)- 1 week. Then a high protein diet (300 grams - daily, eating and shakes no carbs)- 1 week. All of this in conjunction with on average 4 hours a day workout with teaching 30 classes a week. All of this while consuming 1.5-2 gallons of water a day. My body weight went from 265 to 225 (and eventually 218 within 1 week afterward. I did guestimate on the bodyfat as it was probably ALOT more as i was at 25% when i first started.

I have since went back to the high carb diet with 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of bodyweight which lowers my protein intake but still maintains a higher then norm percentage (norm being 1 gram per 2.2lb). My carb intake is 1-3 for protein/carb respectively.

NOw, looking at your repsonse "The carbs hold water (2g water:1g glycogen ratio) and that is why your body fat % went down" doing the water that i stated i did (trust me my bladder can confirm it was done - lol) and water consumed with protein shakes about 5-6 a day. What did i lose. I spoke with shawn ray sunday and looking for an answer and neither of us look at numbers - gets in the way in both of our opinions.

Hit me back.

I don't concern myself with any other number then scale weight and weight lifted. I just don't have the time with everything else.

SG is right.

It doesnt matter how much water you drink, it's how much water you hold. When you drop glycogen, you drop water weight with it. This is an effective method for losing weight. I dropped 10 lbs this way in one day last weekend. In the spring 14 lbs. Both were'nt particularly difficult, and both were one day.

This doesnt mean you've burned fat.

In fact, i wouldnt at all be surprised if you were catabolic most of that time, and lost more water and muscle than anything else.


Ok, did bodyfat I am at 12%, no cramping, or muscle concerns related to lack of hydration have added crazy weight to 1RM. Other then "losing more water and muscle than anything else" what other areas do i need to look at?

Instructions on how to properly apply whatever bodyfat % measurement
method you are using.

i used the 7 spot skinfold method - i think i am changing to the 4.....

various diets function different for different people

if you decide to try the high carb diet i would advise you consume mostly low gi carbs (result in slow rise in blood sugar, slower digestion) the majority of the time

consuming higher gi carbs around workout (WFC- before, during and post)

as mentioned above be sure to consume adequate non limiting proteins.

Limit fructose maybe 2 servings per day. High levels of fructose consmuption has been shown to heigthen creactive protein (marker for insulin resistance), homocystiene (marker for CHD), enhance triglyceride production. Fructose is a polyhydroxy ketone and is metabolized in the liver. While glucose and galactose are polyhydroxy ketones differnet metabolic parameters and include an aldose group while fructose contains a ketose group. Anyways enough of the geek talk.

Starches try to consume mostly amylose (straight chain tightly bound glucose molecules, partially resistance to hydrolysis)

For in depth info concerning Carbohydrates their structure, function, Gi ratining and digestive process refer to The Carbohydrate Files (book) at

also refer to for more info concerning gi index

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