How much does the Pac/Mosely fight bring light to the Pac/Mayweather matchup, style wise?
Im no boxing expert but here are my observations:
- Pac and Mosely are completely different fighters
- But was Mosely's defense still thwarting Pac to an extent or was it a combined case of Mosely running and Pac's legs being not all there?
- Floyd is known as the best defensive fighter and people point out Pac's trouble with JMM, how much would his aggression and Floyd's defensive ability work against him? I guess this is the gazillion dollar question....
But as others have pointed out, Pac is the best offensive fighter and his power, speed and intensity changes things and is something no one has been able to handle
I guess its fair to say that since they are the best at what they do (offensively, defensively), neither has faced a guy like the other.
- Is Pac the only guy in the big PPV combat sports (MMA, boxing, K1) that continues to really give it in each and every single one of his performances?
I know its too much to ask but these are legit questions, so pls try and give legit opinions....yeah right!
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thx
I feel ever since Manny has been coming up in weight, they've carefully picked his opponents (come forward and fight type guys) and he's yet to face a pure boxer like Floyd. That's what is so intriguing about this fight. I like both guys, but I feel mayweather would systematically pick him apart and win a UD. I think they are both in top 3 P4P (Sergio the other). 
What about Clottey? ^
Cotto?
Or better question, of all the guys that Mannys fought since he's "been coming up in weight," which pure boxers were there for him to fight aside from Floyd?
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Wasa-B - Or better question, of all the guys that Mannys fought since he's "been coming up in weight," which pure boxers were there for him to fight aside from Floyd?Berto is considered a pure boxer by some people. If he had gotten past Ortiz, he might've generated enough buzz to justify a shot against Pacman. Too bad
I'm a Pacman fan, but think Mayweather has the right tools to beat him, if he ever sacks up. It depends on if he could handle Manny's speed and throughput, but I could see him just potshotting Manny all night.
Wasa-B - How much does the Pac/Mosely fight bring light to the Pac/Mayweather matchup, style wise?
- But was Mosely's defense still thwarting Pac to an extent or was it a combined case of Mosely running and Pac's legs being not all there?
This is like saying Kalib Starnes' defense thwarted Nate Quarry.
You're right, there really aren't any aside from Floyd ...
I just think Clotty's peek-a-boo/high guard style causes him to stand stationary at times and Mannys speed/power were tailored to beat him....Cotto is a good boxer, but his defense/over aggressiveness causes him to take shots he shouldn't ...manny has the tools to beat PBF,
But for whatever it's worth...my opinion is Floyd by UD....
ohmy23 - ...manny has the tools to beat PBF, But for whatever it's worth...my opinion is Floyd by UD....
I see a Trinidad/De La Hoya-type decision for Pacquiao in which the judges punish Floyd for backing up and playing defense for large portions of the fight.
The real question is who is next for manny, the names being dropped are far from what most want to see. Bradley, Judah, or JMM (at LW would love to see, but WW or above I'm not too keen on this) ... Floyd is out since its rumored he might fight Victor Ortiz in Sept
I just hope the fight happens soon. Floyd's game is heavily reliant on speed, and he's not getting any younger. The best fighter I can recall seeing in a ring was Roy Jones Jr., and as soon as he lost his speed he was done.
I think the Floyd that beat Baldomir and De La Hoya would destroy Manny. I'm not sure about the Floyd who showed up against Mosley though...
whoa......legit thread, yall! props.
all great opinions. im learning stuff. wtf?
eliwoo - I just hope the fight happens soon. Floyd's game is heavily reliant on speed, and he's not getting any younger. The best fighter I can recall seeing in a ring was Roy Jones Jr., and as soon as he lost his speed he was done.
I think the Floyd that beat Baldomir and De La Hoya would destroy Manny. I'm not sure about the Floyd who showed up against Mosley though...
Wasnt Floyd more dominant against Shane than Oscar?
ohmy23 - I feel ever since Manny has been coming up in weight, they've carefully picked his opponents (come forward and fight type guys) and he's yet to face a pure boxer like Floyd. That's what is so intriguing about this fight. I like both guys, but I feel mayweather would systematically pick him apart and win a UD. I think they are both in top 3 P4P (Sergio the other). <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
For F'ck sakes man how can U say that... Manny has faced great boxers!! Shit u are blind and...well never mind F'ck some posters!!
Wasa-B Mosely May be the bset person to answer some of your questions and he Clearly states Manny as the best Boxer he has ever faced
Jetster -ohmy23 - I feel ever since Manny has been coming up in weight, they've carefully picked his opponents (come forward and fight type guys) and he's yet to face a pure boxer like Floyd. That's what is so intriguing about this fight. I like both guys, but I feel mayweather would systematically pick him apart and win a UD. I think they are both in top 3 P4P (Sergio the other). <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
For F'ck sakes man how can U say that... Manny has faced great boxers!! Shit u are blind and...well never mind F'ck some posters!!
Since Manny moved he has faced great boxers....after their greatness had diminished or were already beaten by Floyd.
Manny will feast on the Hattons, Cottos and Margaritos of the world. Diminished names from the past that are aggressive are target practice for Pac. Floyd couldn't be more different than those guys.
We learned nothing about how Pac-PBF will look based on a 40 year old Shane Moseley who struggled with Sergio Mora and refused to engage with Manny.
IMO Floyd will win pretty easily unless fugazi judging is needed to set up an even bigger money rematch. I could see a DLH-Trinidad type fucking
GingerWhinger -However, an old Mosley was able hurt Floyd in their fight, something he didn't come close to doing to Pac. He was also knocked down by Pac, something Floyd couldn't do, even though he was more aggressive than usual in their fight.
We learned nothing about how Pac-PBF will look based on a 40 year old Shane Moseley who struggled with Sergio Mora and refused to engage with Manny.
BuddyRevell -GingerWhinger -However, an old Mosley was able hurt Floyd in their fight, something he didn't come close to doing to Pac. He was also knocked down by Pac, something Floyd couldn't do, even though he was more aggressive than usual in their fight.
We learned nothing about how Pac-PBF will look based on a 40 year old Shane Moseley who struggled with Sergio Mora and refused to engage with Manny.
To be fair, i'll start off by saying again that I think Manny would really have his work cut out against Floyd (as would Floyd) but why the mention of "refusal to engage" when Floyd isnt exactly the biggest engager either, Ginger?
Manny may have had Floyd's seconds but did so as a smaller guy and hasnt he beaten them all more badly than Floyd, including Shane?
I do understand that they have different styles and so Manny knocking down Shane while Floyd did not doesnt mean everything. Shane also ran from Manny for the most part while engaging but not finding Floyd. That is indicative of both Manny and Floyds style, i take it. However, Shane still hurt Floyd though Floyd then figured Shane out thereafter but if we're talking about ocurrences, Manny still hurt Shane, Floyd hit him with some good shots but not sure if he ever really hurt him.
I do give credit for Floyd taking the Shane fight first though, i dont think he gets enough credit for that though at the same time, i dont think Shane can be counted as a monster win for either guy since Shane was already pretty old.
So while Manny's opposition is being criticized as "tailor made" for him, who has Floyd sought out that was such a stylistic challenge if we apply the same level of cristicism there?
I do acknowledge Floyd has beat most of Pacs recent opposition first but Manny is also the smaller guy moving up to take the big fights where the same cannot be said for Floyd, in fact, doesnt Floyd make guys move up to fight him (and not make weight still sometime)?
And as for diminished opposition for Manny, Oscar may have been beat by Floyd first but it was still a competitive affair. Not so with Manny.
Chomas - long story short is that $ Mayweather would make Pacman look bad if they fought
but for some reason Mayweather is not that concerned about the fight
You know, again, i have no problems with this style at all.
It basically says one would favour Floyd but Floyd is somehow ducking.
So what gives?