As an incentive to get fighters who are "Past their prime" should the UFC offer some type of offer to encourage a fighter to hang 'em up?
Would make sense to me, I mean I'm sure knowing you have another big check coming up has to come into play for a fighter.
I'll start the bid at $1 Million haha
If you're going to decide when people should retire, maybe you can help them with the decision.
No. If you want to retire, save your money.
Canooke - No. If you want to retire, save your money.
yep
bemsqua -Canooke - No. If you want to retire, save your money.
yep
If the UFC offer a Fignter a 5 fight contract, the fight is 2 fights in and the company feels they need to retire.... Then YES, offer to buy out the contract. If not, NO 
Yes if they're no longer under contract I think firing them should motivate them enough to hang 'em up
I don't think they should necessarily pay for someones retirement, but I do however think they should offer some sort of 401k plan with employer matched contributions.
nubp - Yes if they're no longer under contract I think firing them should motivate them enough to hang 'em up
That would allow rival promotions to scoop big name fighters IMO. The downside of fighters being independent contractors is that they can continue to take damage as long as AC's will license them to compete, it's their right to take the risks.
Hill Billy - No, but fighters should get residuals when they air old fights like actors do.
id like to see something like this.
retirement plans can easily be set up by yourself. if your company doesnt offer one, talk to a financial advisor. its there fault if they dont prepare for the future, they know the risks.
The point I'm making is in situations when Dana is threaten to "retire" someone who isn't ready to.
I mean Chuck basically got offered a sweet deal... just saying if Dana wants Wand to retire so badly, maybe offer some kind of incentive, or else guys like him will be stubborn as hell
DiazMadeMe BJTheWelshman - Have you noticed that its only the best fighters that go on for to long?<br><br>That's what makes them the best. The desire to fight. Look at Chuck, any lesser man would have retired after getting ko'd by Rashad but he carried on. <br><br>I guess what I'm trying to say is, it doesn't matter if you offer guys like Chuck, Wand and Cro Cop money. They wouldn't take it. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Only the best fighters go on too long in the UFC because everyone else got cut after 3 fights. The rest are going on for too long elsewhere.
Stakk5150 - As an incentive to get fighters who are "Past their prime" should the UFC offer some type of offer to encourage a fighter to hang 'em up?
Would make sense to me, I mean I'm sure knowing you have another big check coming up has to come into play for a fighter.
I'll start the bid at $1 Million haha
If you're going to decide when people should retire, maybe you can help them with the decision.
Does boxing provide a retirement package? I don't follow it. Thanks.
Cindy
Asian Keyboard Warrior - I believe retirement money is not a bad idea though.<br>It would only be given when the fighter has fought for the ufc many years and made the decision to retire themselves. The retirement $ would be a percentage of their average overall income.<br><br>^ it would be a sign of appreciation for the years of heart, sweat, blood, and dedication to making ufc what it is today
Amazing how much charity/generosity people expect from Dana and the UFC. Sure, the UFC couldn't have done it without the fighters, but the UFC created the market which allows the fighters to make really good livings doing what they love to do. On top of that Dana and the UFC regularly hand out bonuses, paying people more than the agreed upon amount.
Now the UFC should pick up everybody's retirement? That's crazy IMO. Maybe the UFC could give the option to structure fighter's pay differently (maybe they already do? what do we know?), instead of paying 100% of the purse to the fighter they could pay them 80% of their purse and put the other 20% into a fund on behalf of the fighter. It could still end up costing the UFC if the UFC pays a financial advisor to be on hand to manage the retirement plans of the fighters. This might be a reasonable cost for a generous company like the UFC though, asking them to just fund the lives of retired fighters is ridiculous.
Stakk5150 - The point I'm making is in situations when Dana is threaten to "retire" someone who isn't ready to.
I mean Chuck basically got offered a sweet deal... just saying if Dana wants Wand to retire so badly, maybe offer some kind of incentive, or else guys like him will be stubborn as hell
Stubborn how? A fighter has no leverage once his contract is up. If Dana doesn't want to re-sign a fighter out of concern for the fighter's health and safety (or for any number of less caring reasons), he doesn't have to. There is no battle and it's not more difficult to let a fighter go if they are stubborn.
CindyO -Stakk5150 - As an incentive to get fighters who are "Past their prime" should the UFC offer some type of offer to encourage a fighter to hang 'em up?
Would make sense to me, I mean I'm sure knowing you have another big check coming up has to come into play for a fighter.
I'll start the bid at $1 Million haha
If you're going to decide when people should retire, maybe you can help them with the decision.
Does boxing provide a retirement package? I don't follow it. Thanks.
Cindy
Do boxing promoters publicly tell it's fighters to retire?
Quite a smart ass response, good job :)
rofl @ retirement for contract fighters.
it's EXTREMELY lucky they get insurance. the UFC does plenty to take care of the fighters, and from what I see they go well beyond what they need to.
Stakk5150 -CindyO -Stakk5150 - As an incentive to get fighters who are "Past their prime" should the UFC offer some type of offer to encourage a fighter to hang 'em up?
Would make sense to me, I mean I'm sure knowing you have another big check coming up has to come into play for a fighter.
I'll start the bid at $1 Million haha
If you're going to decide when people should retire, maybe you can help them with the decision.
Does boxing provide a retirement package? I don't follow it. Thanks.
Cindy
Do boxing promoters publicly tell it's fighters to retire?
Quite a smart ass response, good job :)
No they don't...they just allow them to continue to take punishment until they can barely walk or talk anymore... Not exactly a prize there either.
The UFC should NOT pay for retirement. However, I believe the UFC may be helpful to fighters to set up things for retirement such as investing, gyms...etc. I thought Dana did state something to the effect that they were looking into 401K/retirement type stuff for the fighters.... Cindy do you know if I am right on that one?
The thing with combat sports is that Usually the most amount of money you make in your career is during the end of your peak and therafter which is why it's so difficult for fighters to retire.
The main point I guess is if you are going to publicly say someone should retire, then help them with that decision, it's kind of hard to go fight somewhere else when you have been told publicly you should retire... kinda sucks, no?
Canooke -Asian Keyboard Warrior - I believe retirement money is not a bad idea though.<br>It would only be given when the fighter has fought for the ufc many years and made the decision to retire themselves. The retirement $ would be a percentage of their average overall income.<br><br>^ it would be a sign of appreciation for the years of heart, sweat, blood, and dedication to making ufc what it is today
Amazing how much charity/generosity people expect from Dana and the UFC. Sure, the UFC couldn't have done it without the fighters, but the UFC created the market which allows the fighters to make really good livings doing what they love to do. On top of that Dana and the UFC regularly hand out bonuses, paying people more than the agreed upon amount.
Now the UFC should pick up everybody's retirement? That's crazy IMO. Maybe the UFC could give the option to structure fighter's pay differently (maybe they already do? what do we know?), instead of paying 100% of the purse to the fighter they could pay them 80% of their purse and put the other 20% into a fund on behalf of the fighter. It could still end up costing the UFC if the UFC pays a financial advisor to be on hand to manage the retirement plans of the fighters. This might be a reasonable cost for a generous company like the UFC though, asking them to just fund the lives of retired fighters is ridiculous.
Well put
Humphrey - rofl @ retirement for contract fighters.
it's EXTREMELY lucky they get insurance. the UFC does plenty to take care of the fighters, and from what I see they go well beyond what they need to.
This too