Should the UFC pay for retirement?

MMA Girls - 
Canooke - 
Asian Keyboard Warrior - I believe retirement money is not a bad idea though.

It would only be given when the fighter has fought for the ufc many years and made the decision to retire themselves. The retirement $ would be a percentage of their average overall income.



^ it would be a sign of appreciation for the years of heart, sweat, blood, and dedication to making ufc what it is today




Amazing how much charity/generosity people expect from Dana and the UFC. Sure, the UFC couldn't have done it without the fighters, but the UFC created the market which allows the fighters to make really good livings doing what they love to do. On top of that Dana and the UFC regularly hand out bonuses, paying people more than the agreed upon amount.



Now the UFC should pick up everybody's retirement? That's crazy IMO. Maybe the UFC could give the option to structure fighter's pay differently (maybe they already do? what do we know?), instead of paying 100% of the purse to the fighter they could pay them 80% of their purse and put the other 20% into a fund on behalf of the fighter. It could still end up costing the UFC if the UFC pays a financial advisor to be on hand to manage the retirement plans of the fighters. This might be a reasonable cost for a generous company like the UFC though, asking them to just fund the lives of retired fighters is ridiculous.




do you realize how much money the UFC makes off the fighters? From PPV, ticket sales, merchandise, tv deals, sponsorships, video games, etc...the list goes on. Some of the bigger fighters get more money but the average fighters don't really. When you factor in that they have to give a percentage of their winnings to their gym, manager, sponsors etc...the fighter is not left with a lot.


 I don't so how much is it? And what are Zuffa's expenses? Because that's where you "make" money. You're in the know so can you give us a solid example of a fighter you know? Names aren't important (so you're not betraying a specific person), just one solid example. Thanks.



Cindy

tomp6581 - 
Stakk5150 -
joe bruce - socialist OP






haha the complete opposite



I'm pretty much a libertarian, but nice try



was just making the point that if you're going to publicly out someone and basically coerce them into retirement, maybe it should be done in private, and throw a guy a bone to help him out...



IS That more clear??? lol



I agree. If he is under contract and the powers that be deem a fighter 'past it'... Give him a golden handshake to walk away permanently. Fair was to do things. Phone Post


 Like giving them jobs? Like Chocolate Al and Mark Coleman?



Cindy

I hope they do Phone Post

onepunchJD - havent read the thread yet..



But YES! They absolutly should!



I also believe old school pioneers loke Royce, Ken, Severn, etc., should be getting "bouns" checks after every UFC PPV. These guys paved the way, and helped make alot of people alot of money. They also changes the lives of countless people, like myself. They deserve to profit from the rise of the sport that they literally helped create.


 Which old school fighters besides Ken Shamrock contributed to building the UFC under the Zuffa banner?



Why should Zuffa pay SEG fighters (1993-2000 regime) after every PPV when the sport in North America is what it is because of TUF in 2005?



Cindy

 TTT



Cindy

fighters can probably get royalties . if they negotiate it.

People here are making it seem like it's a hard number and fighters are hired for years. they're short term contracts for the most part, and the negotiation is up to the manager to do. if they're shitty, the deal is shitty

no, let most of them struggle, rent a room, fight in piss poor shows way past their time and be left with nothing. Only 3 people deserve the millions

Hill Billy - 
Humphrey - fighters can probably get royalties . if they negotiate it.



People here are making it seem like it's a hard number and fighters are hired for years. they're short term contracts for the most part, and the negotiation is up to the manager to do. if they're shitty, the deal is shitty


 Fighters do not get residuals for past fights.  We should, but we don't.  Period.


 Tell me about your experience. Did your manager try to negotiate that for you and failed? Just curious why you should be getting residuals but don't. Thanks.



Cindy

I used to like CindyO until this thread.... way to come in here blazing with smart ass responses... never believed you were a paid poster until now, good job.

Now back to real people who might actually understand what I said vs. the what they think I said lol

 Ohs noes! It's the paid poster thing folks use when they don't like what you post!!!



Cindy

buy out the contracts under some kind of retirement clause.

I want to get paid to post! I say good things about the UFC! Cindy, hook me up!













































....and then I want my retirement taken care of when I don't feel like making pro-UFC posts anymore!

The UFC could set up a Career Counseling Center and Investment Center somewhere in Vegas, maybe with a career counselor that could help fighters/ex-fighters get tips 1. On re-entering the workforce and 2. Basic retirement/Financial Planning. I'm sure Fidelity or Schwab could send a guy out there and/or be a sponsor.

CindyO -  Ohs noes! It's the paid poster thing folks use when they don't like what you post!!!

Cindy


like I said I never thought it until now... maybe you should reevaluate how you come off if it's said so often... if you were a guy I would definitely call you a douchebag right about now, Thanks.

Stakk5150 - 
CindyO -  Ohs noes! It's the paid poster thing folks use when they don't like what you post!!!

Cindy


like I said I never thought it until now... maybe you should reevaluate how you come off if it's said so often... if you were a guy I would definitely call you a douchebag right about now, Thanks.


Cindy is a good poster but she is a pro at getting under people's skin. It's funny watching her do it to other people but I can see how people could get pissed when she's doing it to them.

Disengage.

not sure if's she's trollin or not or just an ass, but she came off very bad here.

Plus, her and others didn't even understand my post, or didn't read it at all lol

To CindyO, Sorry for calling you names, that's was rude of me...

Guess I was caught off guard for a second, my apologies, that's not like me.