tko and the hells angels

"my statement is very much so correct"

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We all thought Bill from Development was a nice guy...until he came into the office with an AK-47 high capacity clip and killed 22 co-workers.



obviously most of you don't watch other sports live ...

ttt for the naivete of some people...

cheers

was there any five year old hell's angels there?

10040g you don't have to invite anyone. I have been here for years.

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What....the fuck are you talking about

man, what's next dress code in effect?



DVD.

That's right. I said it and I don't care who knows!

Here's my sob story:

11yrs ago I move a buddy into his place and then go the bar for 1 drink. We leave the back door after the old guy working asks us to head out as he's leaving from the front door. Bar was in a small town with one set of lights, and he saw us come in and we were the only folks in the place. Step outside into the middle of something going down. We tell the group we dont see anyhthing and they say "just walk through". So we do and instantly I am hit over the head with a lead pipe, knocked out and beat senseless for 15 minutes until the 1 COP nearby gets there and its too late as I am messed up bad. My 3 buddies get serious injuries broken ribs, loose teeth, oral surgery due to broken jaw. I am lucky enough to walk away with permanent brain injury(short term memory problems), lost a tooth, permanent damage to one eye (pupil doesnt close anymore which is a bitch in the sunlight), and do rehab, and loose a year of college.

All this because I walked into something going down. The police though it was a Bike Gang and they were sending a signal for us not to say what we saw or might have saw etc...

I guess it's my fault for being innocent,and in the wrong place at the wrong time. I had one drink because we went to the bar for last call, and walked into something none of us knew what was going on, and no one saw a thing. The thing that upsets me, is that during my lengthy stay in the hospital, my grandmother passed away on the same floor and same hospital and I dont even remember that.

Good thing is that I have no memeory of the occurrence due to what the physicians call, concussion amnesia.(bodies reaction to blows to the head)

My sob story is REAL, it's not made up or fabricated, or strecthed to be believable. Anyone when they meet me can feel free to check my eyes out and they will notice my left pupil especially when training, and I am more than willing to show you all my missing tooth as well. My post was not done to point fingers at the HA as I dont even know if it was them, but they are known to travel and have a presence in the town I was in.

My post done more along the position of, even the Innocent are Victims of Senseless Crimes, and it does it impact everyone someday.

So we should not live in aw rold of rose colored sunglasses and paint a picture the world is fine. As not just the HA but Young Offenders, addicts, Drunk Drivers all make victims of Innocent people. Mine happened to be a Bike Gnag.

I don't know much about Patry or him having any links to the HA. I do know that if the HA have any involment in TKO, you can forget about fighters, comentators or any other employees being paid properly. If there is money to be made, then that is why they are there.

ttt 4 wiley.

An actual detail of my beating that my friends told me as they were beaten. Was they could see one guy on each arm hold me up and another holding my hair back by my bangs with one knee in the middle of my back while others took turns smashing the unconscious guy with a pipe, and laughing. All this while my friends got their ass' kicked and they could do nothing to help out this guy.(weight of 135lbs back then) We were beaten by a group of anywhere from 15-20 guys. When the 1 COP showed up they were gone and my friends couldn't even help me really as I was out and bleeding. The stupid COP started moving my head around and my frined pushes him away and he gets cuffed, the stupid cop could have parylized me and my friend was a lifeguard and knew he shouldnt be moving me around.. When other cops arrived he was released due to the circumstances. Then of course I was taken via ambulance to another hospital in a bigger city because the town's hospital couldn't help me because I was in serious shape.

Yet I deserved what I got I guess.

You didn't deserve any of that for sure...

Here's my story, it's a little more fun but... I was in a bar (Bourbon Street in St-Sauveur)a couple of years ago with two of my friends, i was drinking and talking with a cute girl, that same girl told me that some guy was harassing her, and when the guy came by i told him to step off and leave the girl alone, but i did'nt know the guy was hanging out with some members of HA school club named ....... (i don't want to tell their name but it's started with Rock and finished by ers.

Anyway the guy was pissed i told him that, and wanted to kill me , (that's what he said) he said "i'm gonna shoot you motherfucker" at that time i was teaching and practicing the lethal art of kenpo karate and tought i was invincible, so i said to the guy,( i was calling him Gilligan, because he was wearing the same kind of hat Gilligan had) "come on let's fight outside" and then sixteen guys with the name of their association on their shirts surrounded us.

The leader guy said what's the problem here? and i told him, it's between me and him. And he said well, whatever problem with our friend is our problem... i was like thinking in my head" i could probably beat up 3 or 4 guys but 16 is a little too much to ask, i may be a black belt but i'm still no Bruce Lee"

Then my friend came up and he said" we are sorry, my friend (me) is drunk it won't happen again" and i replied to my friend " shut up you pussy, i'm not drunk (obviously not)" and the leader guy said to us stay calm shut up and nothing bad will happen" and they leaves us there. My friend was pissed at me, (he was so scared) and my other drunk friend said to me you know bro, i would have help you if something bad happens (yeah right, he was so drunk he would have hit me)

Then, something weird happened, when we were circulating in the bar, going to the bathroom, ordering a drink at the bar, 3 or 4 guys were always following us, so we were thinking, they wait til we leave and they are going to kick our ass in the parking or something. Suddenly a miracle happened, two drunk chicks stepped on a bar and started dancing together and doing some lesbo-porno stuff, like undressed themselves, licking each other titties, french-kissing etc... all of the bikers surrounded that bar and we took the opportunity to run outside and take off. I don't know what would happen if those girls would'nt show up...

For a while i had no respect for HA or any of these guys at all, and i still have no respect for what they do (business), but i met some guys and became friend with some of these guys and learned to respect them on a personal level.

You don't have a DVD of the two chicks on the bar do you?

wiley...you tell a real sad storey and those guys that did that to you were real bastards....BUT you now make a generalized statement based on your experience. What if it were black guys that jumped you, or Americans or women? would you still hold the rest of the group responsible?

I think the bottomline is how did the guys at TKO conduct themselves. If they were cool (which by accounts i've they were), then party on!! And let's not discriminate according to association.

Believe me I make no blanket statement nor do I generalize a certain group. I simply stated that it was Bikers who victimized myself and my friends. they might have been black, hispanic, native, german, south african even, I dont give a shit. I just know that they were bikers and most, if not all of them are in that lifestyle are invloved in crime, extortion, prostitution, drug dealing, racketeering etc.... I was raised by my father and uncle who was a biker for what was Satan's Choice in Hamilton. I know about bikers persoanlly since my injury, my uncle has now exlcuded himself from stuff but, you can never get rid of your friends. He simply no longer rolls with the crowd and is no longer an active member. I also grew up in the rough area with the longshoremen and there actvities so I know a bit about the subject.

I simply wanted to cast light in no matter how nice a certain group can appear they are a business and they protect their business at the cost of innocent people. And if they want a piece of the action they will get a piece of the action in different ways.