TUF 20 premiere does 536,000

Damn, that sucks.  I actually will watch this season and was hoping it would do better.  Foolish to do it without a live Fight Night lead in though.  UFC has to be disappointed with this as there was heavy advertising during football this weekend.  Rating in the comments by author here:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/09/11/wednesday-cable-ratings-teen-mom-2-wins-night-the-kelly-file-the-daily-show-couples-therapy-more/301671/

It is really time to put the TUF show to rest.  Next year will be 10 years and they keep doing the same old thing (outside of a few cosmetic changes).  The UFC has to come up with something better to get old fans excited and attract new fans.

I had higher expectations too damn Phone Post 3.0

What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Shows live and die by them

JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?


Well, fucks are given because higher ratings means better growth for the sport (both the UFC and as a whole).  This results in bigger and better events; can also increase fighter pay.

eXtv - 
JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Shows live and die by them

I don't know if you noticed but there are commercials in between sections of the show. These pay for the show, ratings establish how much peeps pay for those slots and that establishes whether or not a show is profitable and worth recommissioning. So ratings matter.

You feel me.

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JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Shows live and die by them
I have a feeling the rating will pick up as people are talking about it.

American TUF has been stale for a LONG time. Sometimes you need more than one shower to wash the stank off. Phone Post 3.0

Plus, better ratings (and, in effect, better pay) will result in better athletes coming into MMA.

Ohhhhhh jeeeeshish

Should've leaded in with something besides roundtable Phone Post 3.0

 TUF is dead as long as its on FS1.  Nothing they can do will save it.  No new div, title, coach, format change, house change, nothing will help it except moving it back to FX which aint gonna happen.

So after this season they should just kill it and focus on something new in US and keep the international TUF's going since they are doing well in Mexico and Brazil.  Do an Ireland or Sweden or Europe TUF which will do well.

Those will be fine cause they are new to those countries.

 

 

JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Ratings are what the entire TV industry is built upon. They determine if a show will survive or not.

That's like saying what the obsession with ticket sales at a live event is. No money, no show.

moonrunrs - 
JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Ratings are what the entire TV industry is built upon. They determine if a show will survive or not.

That's like saying what the obsession with ticket sales at a live event is. No money, no show.


Thats true but difference between ticket sales and ratings is one actually counts every person who buys a ticket and the other uses a sample audince to account for the entire country.  



With ratings being so important to TV they should develop a way to accurately count what people watch. 

JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

All the people that log in under mmalogic sure give a fuck

Chris27 - 
moonrunrs - 
JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Ratings are what the entire TV industry is built upon. They determine if a show will survive or not.

That's like saying what the obsession with ticket sales at a live event is. No money, no show.


Thats true but difference between ticket sales and ratings is one actually counts every person who buys a ticket and the other uses a sample audince to account for the entire country.  



With ratings being so important to TV they should develop a way to accurately count what people watch. 


The way they calculate how many people watch a TV program is very accurate.

how does it compare to the last season

58miles - 
Chris27 - 
moonrunrs - 
JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Ratings are what the entire TV industry is built upon. They determine if a show will survive or not.

That's like saying what the obsession with ticket sales at a live event is. No money, no show.


Thats true but difference between ticket sales and ratings is one actually counts every person who buys a ticket and the other uses a sample audince to account for the entire country.  



With ratings being so important to TV they should develop a way to accurately count what people watch. 


The way they calculate how many people watch a TV program is very accurate.

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm

In the U.S., the term "TV ratings" immediately makes people think of "Nielsen" because Nielsen Media Research has become the de facto national measurement service for the television industry in the United States and Canada. Nielson measures the number of people watching television shows and makes its data available to the television and cable networks, advertisers and the media.

Nielsen uses a technique called statistical sampling to rate the shows -- the same technique that pollsters use to predict the outcome of elections. Nielsen creates a "sample audience" and then counts how many in that audience view each program. Nielsen then extrapolates from the sample and estimates the number of viewers in the entire population watching the show. That's a simple way of explaining what is a complicated, extensive process. Nielsen relies mainly on information collected from TV set meters that it installs, and then combines this information with huge databases of the programs that appear on each TV station and cable channel.

To find out who is watching TV and what they are watching, the company gets around 5,000 households to agree to be a part of the representative sample for the national ratings estimates. Nielsen's statistics show that 99 million households have TVs in the United States, so Nielsen's sample is not very large. The key, therefore, is to be sure the sample is representative. Then TVs, homes, programs, and people are measured in a variety of ways.

To find out what people are watching, meters installed in the selected sample of homes track when TV sets are on and what channels they are tuned to. A "black box," which is just a computer and modem, gathers and sends all this information to the company's central computer every night. Then by monitoring what is on TV at any given time, the company is able to keep track of how many people watch which program.

Small boxes, placed near the TV sets of those in the national sample, measure who is watching by giving each member of the household a button to turn on and off to show when he or she begins and ends viewing. This information is also collected each night.

The national TV ratings largely rely on these meters. To ensure reasonably accurate results, the company uses audits and quality checks and regularly compares the ratings it gets from different samples and measurement methods.

Participants in Nielsen's national sample are randomly selected. Every U.S. household with a TV theoretically has a chance to be a part of the sample. The sample is also compared to the general population, and at times Nielsen calls thousands of households to see if their TV sets are on and who is watching.

This research is worth billions of dollars. Advertisers pay to air their commercials on TV programs using rates that are based on Nielsen's data. Programmers also use Nielsen's data to decide which shows to keep and which to cancel. A show that has several million viewers may seem popular to us, but a network may need millions more watching that program to make it a financial success. That's why some shows with a loyal following still get canceled.

Why isn't TUF on FOX? Phone Post 3.0

Fuck.. this season should have been on big fox.. fucking idiots.

eXtv - 
JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Shows live and die by them

Yea if we dont make it to TWENTY ONE season of TUF i might suicide.


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