UFC plans 54 events in 2014, fans whine

That kinda sucks. It's going to hurt us promoters. People will be so burnt out with being surrounded by mma nonstop that it will make our attendance take a hit.

Gonna have to add pony rides, dunking booths and mud wrestling to keep interest!! Phone Post 3.0

Thacommish - 
moss_4h - 
Media Monster - 


Es nohrmal... fight es fight... i like fight... i watch fight


This. You're either a fight fan or you're not. You want some drama to get your vajayjay tingling?

Recent fight cards that were considered weak:
UFC Fight Night: Belfort vs. Henderson
UFC: Fight for the Troops 3
UFC Fight Night: Machida vs. Munoz

Look at how that turned out

No thats not it at all. Im a football fan and if buffalo is playing the jags on thursday night football, i wont go out of my way to watch it. Same goes for when ufc puts on an event like "UFC Fight Night: Rockhold vs. Philippou".

Oh I see my bad, I assume they're top 10 ranked match ups yes? I only follow MMA so I'm always pumped when there's a fight on, even Kennedy vs Natal was interesting. Media day workout, Pre-fight press conference, Weigh-ins! & then Fight night!!!

As an MMA fan I say have all the cards you want, but I don't live and breath watching live MMA so I won't tune into every minute of every show.

From a business point of view, it reeks of short-term thinking. No matter how you slice it the UFC is saturating and weakening their product; More is not better.

No, first you grow the sport to a critical mass, then you dilute the shit out of it because the brand is so strong people will keep buying anyway. The UFC is not there yet. Lots of weak cards equal less viewers per show equals unhappy Fox and UFC execs.

Thacommish - 
moss_4h - 
Thacommish - 
moss_4h - 
Media Monster - 


Es nohrmal... fight es fight... i like fight... i watch fight


This. You're either a fight fan or you're not. You want some drama to get your vajayjay tingling?

Recent fight cards that were considered weak:
UFC Fight Night: Belfort vs. Henderson
UFC: Fight for the Troops 3
UFC Fight Night: Machida vs. Munoz

Look at how that turned out

No thats not it at all. Im a football fan and if buffalo is playing the jags on thursday night football, i wont go out of my way to watch it. Same goes for when ufc puts on an event like "UFC Fight Night: Rockhold vs. Philippou".

Oh I see my bad, I assume they're top 10 ranked match ups yes? I only follow MMA so I'm always pumped when there's a fight on, even Kennedy vs Natal was interesting. Media day workout, Pre-fight press conference, Weigh-ins! & then Fight night!!!

top 10 ranked matchups? phillipou? maybe because okami and chael are not ranked?

I was talking about the football game haha

KingofBJJ - 

The numbers are pretty straight forward. There are around 400 fighters under contract with the UFC, and each needs to fight three times per year. That is of course 1,200 times a fighter has to step into the cage. With twelve fights per card, or 24 fighters, that is a total of about 50 fights that the UFC has to put on. You can take away some fights for injuries, and add some fights as there are likely more than 400 fighters under contract (UFC president Dana White referenced 475 fighters last year). But somewhere around 50 fights is about right, and nothing to whine about.

 

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How can you be a manager of this site and not be able to do arithmetic?  "That's of course 1,200 times a fighter has to step in to the cage".

Really? One guy has to be able to fight 1200 times in one year or FOUR TIMES a day?  I will only help you out in the first part and then after than you need to go back to school.  If there are 400 fighters, then by the current rules you have to have two fighters.  So from there you need base your math around 200 pairs of fighters.

Okay I lied, I have to give you a second CLUE!  So if you have 200 pairs of fighters, start off with how many times can they fight a year?  200/12= close to 17 fights a year. Or basically one, one month and two another month and alternate.

Now I gave you a baseline and you do the numbers on the possible fights per month or x=paired fighters/frequency of fights.

 

You may be bright in other areas. In all likelihood though, you are not.

If you prefer to look at it your way, we can. But the numbers are the same. Because it is math.

We have as you prefer to put it 200 pairs of fighters. Those fighters need to fight three times per year, or, wait for it, 600 fights. With 12 fights per card, that is 50 events.

Please don't post again unless it is an admission of stupidity. Anything else is stupid.

Unless you are trolling, which is stupid too.

I will watch MMA every single day that it is on so this is good


I would really like to be able to see the coaches fight each other on the ultimate finale though. Just seems shitty that after investing all that time in watching the show that I might have to miss it if it is a month I can't get the boys together to get the PPV.



Also, new announcing teams please! Get Frank Mir back in there, love his commentary.


Also, more of the new ring girls! More Fight For The Troops!

KnowKontrol - I do the UFC as a reason to hang out with my friends 1 or 2 times a month. I am a fan most of the others are just interested in passing. So many cards will loose their interest and mess up the good thing I have going... Phone Post 3.0

Why exactly is that. I know a lot of casual hockey fans who only go out to watch a game on a Saturday night at the bar, or casual football fans who basically only go out to the bar for the Monday Night game.

Some people will be hardcore fans who watch the fighters they specifically like, or the big cards (like people who only watch playoffs).

I think what they were kind of getting by hinting that we are going to be surprised at how we view some of these cards, is that the Asian/European smaller cards will be more region heavy, and we'll see them online over here.

I'd also like to point out that UFC PPVs in the pre-TUF era were not remotely as stacked as people like to think. They had their share of turds then, too. Just because you knew who all the fighters were doesn't mean they were all good. It just meant there were a lot less of them.

Their funeral. More events=people not caring about missing an event. Phone Post 3.0

KingofBJJ -
Kirik - 
KingofBJJ - 

The numbers are pretty straight forward. There are around 400 fighters under contract with the UFC, and each needs to fight three times per year. That is of course 1,200 times a fighter has to step into the cage. With twelve fights per card, or 24 fighters, that is a total of about 50 fights that the UFC has to put on. You can take away some fights for injuries, and add some fights as there are likely more than 400 fighters under contract (UFC president Dana White referenced 475 fighters last year). But somewhere around 50 fights is about right, and nothing to whine about.

 

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How can you be a manager of this site and not be able to do arithmetic?  "That's of course 1,200 times a fighter has to step in to the cage".

Really? One guy has to be able to fight 1200 times in one year or FOUR TIMES a day?  I will only help you out in the first part and then after than you need to go back to school.  If there are 400 fighters, then by the current rules you have to have two fighters.  So from there you need base your math around 200 pairs of fighters.

Okay I lied, I have to give you a second CLUE!  So if you have 200 pairs of fighters, start off with how many times can they fight a year?  200/12= close to 17 fights a year. Or basically one, one month and two another month and alternate.

Now I gave you a baseline and you do the numbers on the possible fights per month or x=paired fighters/frequency of fights.

 

You may be bright in other areas. In all likelihood though, you are not.

If you prefer to look at it your way, we can. But the numbers are the same. Because it is math.

We have as you prefer to put it 200 pairs of fighters. Those fighters need to fight three times per year, or, wait for it, 600 fights. With 12 fights per card, that is 50 events.

Please don't post again unless it is an admission of stupidity. Anything else is stupid.


Unless you are trolling, which is stupid too.



That wasn't my argument...wait for it... IDIOT.  Go back to school and learn Reading Comprehension and then post back with an intelligible response.

Subbed for conclusion. Phone Post 3.0

this is why we can't have nice things.

This comes back to my idea when they bought strikeforce, to turn sf into a weekly 2 hour fight show like wwe uses. Make a tv title for the guys who fight on air. And leave the ppv alone. Phone Post 3.0

The difference is that the Zuffa folks know what they're talking about. They've proved that they make smart moves. They took a dead sport with a public perception akin to porn, and now it's on free network television.

It was porn, nobody watched, and now people are talking about getting the sport in to the Olympics.

They really don't need advice from the Twitter experts. They have to either keep the rosters small, and keep cutting fighters that they would otherwise keep, or put on more cards.

How many pro boxing cards happen every day around the world? What if you add kickboxing?

If you want Cain to make Tyson money, the sport has to grow.

This is what i would do...

Fortnightly thursday fight night cards (this would include your fight for the troops - tuf finale's etc and be on free tv) = 26 events
European cards (on free tv) = 12
PPV (this is your big ass cards that go on round the world) = 13

Total = 51 events

Not an expert - just my opinion )

many many cards headlined by fights like Kennedy vs. Natal. Not too excited imo, then again there are still cards with fights like Lombard vs Marquardt on undercards, it could be a good thing if executed correctly.

We whine because this means the shows will be even more watered down. One of the things I liked about MMA over boxing was the mega cards. Boxing they try to squeeze every dime out of the fans and wouldn't have a single card where there are like 8 superfights. It just wouldn't happen. Look at the old Pride format, sure they had fewer shows per year, the cards were fucking stacked. Now they have more events in a year then Pride had in its entirety.

Willo232 - many many cards headlined by fights like Kennedy vs. Natal. Not too excited imo, then again there are still cards with fights like Lombard vs Marquardt on undercards, it could be a good thing if executed correctly.

Due to injury, Machida replaced an injured Bisping

KingofBJJ - 
Kirik - 
KingofBJJ - 

The numbers are pretty straight forward. There are around 400 fighters under contract with the UFC, and each needs to fight three times per year. That is of course 1,200 times a fighter has to step into the cage. With twelve fights per card, or 24 fighters, that is a total of about 50 fights that the UFC has to put on. You can take away some fights for injuries, and add some fights as there are likely more than 400 fighters under contract (UFC president Dana White referenced 475 fighters last year). But somewhere around 50 fights is about right, and nothing to whine about.

 

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How can you be a manager of this site and not be able to do arithmetic?  "That's of course 1,200 times a fighter has to step in to the cage".

Really? One guy has to be able to fight 1200 times in one year or FOUR TIMES a day?  I will only help you out in the first part and then after than you need to go back to school.  If there are 400 fighters, then by the current rules you have to have two fighters.  So from there you need base your math around 200 pairs of fighters.

Okay I lied, I have to give you a second CLUE!  So if you have 200 pairs of fighters, start off with how many times can they fight a year?  200/12= close to 17 fights a year. Or basically one, one month and two another month and alternate.

Now I gave you a baseline and you do the numbers on the possible fights per month or x=paired fighters/frequency of fights.

 

You may be bright in other areas. In all likelihood though, you are not.

If you prefer to look at it your way, we can. But the numbers are the same. Because it is math.

We have as you prefer to put it 200 pairs of fighters. Those fighters need to fight three times per year, or, wait for it, 600 fights. With 12 fights per card, that is 50 events.

Please don't post again unless it is an admission of stupidity. Anything else is stupid.

Unless you are trolling, which is stupid too.


That wasn't my argument...wait for it... IDIOT.  Go back to school and learn Reading Comprehension and then post back with an intelligible response.


I hate starting my friday morning off with this stupidity. Thanks dick

I on't understand why people get butthurt at the opinion that: less stacked cards = less of a reason to pay the same price for the card each time.

That's pretty much the definition of saturation point, usually businesses want to avoid that. Just more free MMA? Sure that's great but I doubt the PPV's will benefit from the availability being drawn thinner by more free shows.

 

I can see both sides of this but you cannot say that thinning out the strength of PPV endlessly is feasible for profit growth.