VectorWega -taylork3 -Yes, it's a great tactical decision to stand for most of the the fight and then go for takedowns at the end of 2 of the 3 rounds in order to attempt to squeek out a decision win. It sure worked out well. A far greater strategy if you can execute it, is what GSP did to Koscheck. GSP only had a few takedowns that entire fight. However, they were at the beginning of the ground and it stayed their the rest of the fight. There was absolutely no way the judges could give the win to Koscheck there.H20 - Vinny could have won that fight, he took Eliot down at will, immidate side control, immidate mount, landing big punches. and it happened more than once, by far the most action in the whole fight.
Only thing is, he stood and played pattycake with Eliot for 4 1/2 minutes each round, backing away from his kicks, both hardly doing a thing, then thought for some reason if he dominated Eliot the last 30 seconds of the rounds he would win? Horrible gameplan but Rogan and Goldy even thought Vinny was going to get the decision. I knew Eliot would get it, he controlled the standup the whole fight.
Have you ever fought a striker or someone who knew your gameplan was to take them down?
You can't just shoot in from across the cage every two mins, you have to cut them off and get them on a straight line. Tactically getting the takedown at the very end of the round is favourable in the judges eyes. You can't just shoot for a whole round, getting sprawled on and shaken off every half minute is going to go against you on the scorecards and you're going to be knackered after round 1.
There's far more tactically than punch or takedown or get the sub at the snap of your fingers.
I think Vinny fought a great tactical fight in that respect and I'm not the only one who gave him the win - sherdog's play-by-play also gave him the dec.
Also, LMAO @ the thought that your opponent could stuff you several times in a round but if you only attempt a couple of takedowns as a last ditch effort, then those certainly won't be prevented. ..haha.
I think Vinny would have had an excellent chance to win the fight on the ground. Elliot really didn't show that great of takedown defense. Sure, Vinny might have gotten tagged coming in, but this is a fight. You gotta take chances and not just sit back hoping for a decision.
Yeah except you're comparing a fight between two BJJ'ers to a fight between two wrestlers, who when put on their back are famously weak. Eliot knows enough on the ground to stay active and shrimp out of danger
I didn't say he should've gone for takedowns JUST at the end of the round, but that's obviously the time when they're going to mean the most in the judges eyes. Again when someone knows what's coming, it's going to be hard to get a takedown, as opposed to softening them up and catching them when they're least expecting it
Bearing in mind Vinny took this on short notice also, the cardio required to takedown someone who's expecting it is alot more than that of sitting at a computer and making comments and criticisms
Vinny took the fight to Eliot, took damage in the effort to get the takedowns, and softened him up enough standing to land a couple and score with superior jits and gnp
Did you even watch the fight? The first takedown against the cage Eliot broke away from and got on his bike. Vin chased him for the most