2004 and 2008 Olympic gold medalist in judo enters bjj tournmaent in the masters blue belt division, winning all 5 of his matches by submission.
Lol I met an Olympic wrestling torch bearer in the intermediate division of a naga once like 8 years after his Olympic wrestling experience. He smashed me
things to see people to do -Lol I met an Olympic wrestling torch bearer in the intermediate division of a naga once like 8 years after his Olympic wrestling experience. He smashed me
lol
things to see people to do -Lol I met an Olympic wrestling torch bearer in the intermediate division of a naga once like 8 years after his Olympic wrestling experience. He smashed me
Not that spaz dude huh? Neck cranker!
NAGA intermediate division is fire. Judo/Wrestling Olympians, UFC veterans, etc.
Hell, at a NAGA some years back I witnessed a guy get BJJ Coach of the decade award from Kip himself then the guy went and competed... in the intermediate division.
My first BJJ tournament I look over and Igor Zinoviev --who I had just watched beat Mario Sperry on pay per view-- was on the mat next to me.
There was some confusion and turns out his match was after mine, two weight divisions of Blue Belts were sharing one mat.
But that was my fist inkling that maybe, just maybe, not all "Blue Belts" are 100% equal.
I also remember seeing "Crazy" Bob Cook from AKA win the white belt division at a BJJ tournament. He had been training eight years at that point, according to him.
I knew a Luta Livre Black Belt from Brazil that (barely) won the IBJJF world's at Blue Belt. He had been grappling over 10 years.
I'd bet there are probably no gi tournaments where the "Advanced/Expert " division is easier than the intermediate division.
I mean, watching the last nogi worlds, it was just a bunch of nonsense; absurd sandbaging everywhere. There should be belt rank time limits on belts for competetors. You should NOT be able to compete for 6 years as a blue belt. They're destroying the entire point of having different colored belts ranks. They really should get rid of "World Championships" for anyone below Black Belt. It creates his nonsense. People think it's cool to have these super high level Blue Belts-- BUT NO! Blue belts are NOT supposed to be ultra high level grapplers who can tap a lot of Black Belts. --They're supposed to be Blue Belts! That is the entire point of having a colored belt system so people can compete with their PEERS, guys who have been training ROUGHLY the same amount of time. When you have 10 year Blue Belts, it ruins the system for all the honest people.
shen -I also remember seeing "Crazy" Bob Cook from AKA win the white belt division at a BJJ tournament. He had been training eight years at that point, according to him.
I knew a Luta Livre Black Belt from Brazil that (barely) won the IBJJF world's at Blue Belt. He had been grappling over 10 years.
I'd bet there are probably no gi tournaments where the "Advanced/Expert " division is easier than the intermediate division.
I mean, watching the last nogi worlds, it was just a bunch of nonsense; absurd sandbaging everywhere. There should be belt rank time limits on belts for competetors. You should NOT be able to compete for 6 years as a blue belt. They're destroying the entire point of having different colored belts ranks. They really should get rid of "World Championships" for anyone below Black Belt. It creates his nonsense. People think it's cool to have these super high level Blue Belts-- BUT NO! Blue belts are NOT supposed to be ultra high level grapplers who can tap a lot of Black Belts. --They're supposed to be Blue Belts! That is the entire point of having a colored belt system so people can compete with their PEERS, guys who have been training ROUGHLY the same amount of time. When you have 10 year Blue Belts, it ruins the system for all the honest people.
Your blue belt envy is showing.
Robobear -things to see people to do -Lol I met an Olympic wrestling torch bearer in the intermediate division of a naga once like 8 years after his Olympic wrestling experience. He smashed me
Not that spaz dude huh? Neck cranker!
Lol that's the one! I forgot you were there for that one lol
shen -I also remember seeing "Crazy" Bob Cook from AKA win the white belt division at a BJJ tournament. He had been training eight years at that point, according to him.
I knew a Luta Livre Black Belt from Brazil that (barely) won the IBJJF world's at Blue Belt. He had been grappling over 10 years.
I'd bet there are probably no gi tournaments where the "Advanced/Expert " division is easier than the intermediate division.
I mean, watching the last nogi worlds, it was just a bunch of nonsense; absurd sandbaging everywhere. There should be belt rank time limits on belts for competetors. You should NOT be able to compete for 6 years as a blue belt. They're destroying the entire point of having different colored belts ranks. They really should get rid of "World Championships" for anyone below Black Belt. It creates his nonsense. People think it's cool to have these super high level Blue Belts-- BUT NO! Blue belts are NOT supposed to be ultra high level grapplers who can tap a lot of Black Belts. --They're supposed to be Blue Belts! That is the entire point of having a colored belt system so people can compete with their PEERS, guys who have been training ROUGHLY the same amount of time. When you have 10 year Blue Belts, it ruins the system for all the honest people.
Agreed. Anyone who wins worlds/no gi worlds (white, blue, purple, brown) should automatically be promoted on the podium. You’ve reached the pinnacle, move on.
shen -I also remember seeing "Crazy" Bob Cook from AKA win the white belt division at a BJJ tournament. He had been training eight years at that point, according to him.
I knew a Luta Livre Black Belt from Brazil that (barely) won the IBJJF world's at Blue Belt. He had been grappling over 10 years.
I'd bet there are probably no gi tournaments where the "Advanced/Expert " division is easier than the intermediate division.
I mean, watching the last nogi worlds, it was just a bunch of nonsense; absurd sandbaging everywhere. There should be belt rank time limits on belts for competetors. You should NOT be able to compete for 6 years as a blue belt. They're destroying the entire point of having different colored belts ranks. They really should get rid of "World Championships" for anyone below Black Belt. It creates his nonsense. People think it's cool to have these super high level Blue Belts-- BUT NO! Blue belts are NOT supposed to be ultra high level grapplers who can tap a lot of Black Belts. --They're supposed to be Blue Belts! That is the entire point of having a colored belt system so people can compete with their PEERS, guys who have been training ROUGHLY the same amount of time. When you have 10 year Blue Belts, it ruins the system for all the honest people.
But Helio wore a blue belt and he had over 75 years of training. Lol
things to see people to do -Robobear -things to see people to do -Lol I met an Olympic wrestling torch bearer in the intermediate division of a naga once like 8 years after his Olympic wrestling experience. He smashed me
Not that spaz dude huh? Neck cranker!
Lol that's the one! I forgot you were there for that one lol
I say you easily smash him inside of 5 minutes now.
shen -I also remember seeing "Crazy" Bob Cook from AKA win the white belt division at a BJJ tournament. He had been training eight years at that point, according to him.
I knew a Luta Livre Black Belt from Brazil that (barely) won the IBJJF world's at Blue Belt. He had been grappling over 10 years.
I'd bet there are probably no gi tournaments where the "Advanced/Expert " division is easier than the intermediate division.
I mean, watching the last nogi worlds, it was just a bunch of nonsense; absurd sandbaging everywhere. There should be belt rank time limits on belts for competetors. You should NOT be able to compete for 6 years as a blue belt. They're destroying the entire point of having different colored belts ranks. They really should get rid of "World Championships" for anyone below Black Belt. It creates his nonsense. People think it's cool to have these super high level Blue Belts-- BUT NO! Blue belts are NOT supposed to be ultra high level grapplers who can tap a lot of Black Belts. --They're supposed to be Blue Belts! That is the entire point of having a colored belt system so people can compete with their PEERS, guys who have been training ROUGHLY the same amount of time. When you have 10 year Blue Belts, it ruins the system for all the honest people.
great post! exactly!
graciesrule -shen -I also remember seeing "Crazy" Bob Cook from AKA win the white belt division at a BJJ tournament. He had been training eight years at that point, according to him.
I knew a Luta Livre Black Belt from Brazil that (barely) won the IBJJF world's at Blue Belt. He had been grappling over 10 years.
I'd bet there are probably no gi tournaments where the "Advanced/Expert " division is easier than the intermediate division.
I mean, watching the last nogi worlds, it was just a bunch of nonsense; absurd sandbaging everywhere. There should be belt rank time limits on belts for competetors. You should NOT be able to compete for 6 years as a blue belt. They're destroying the entire point of having different colored belts ranks. They really should get rid of "World Championships" for anyone below Black Belt. It creates his nonsense. People think it's cool to have these super high level Blue Belts-- BUT NO! Blue belts are NOT supposed to be ultra high level grapplers who can tap a lot of Black Belts. --They're supposed to be Blue Belts! That is the entire point of having a colored belt system so people can compete with their PEERS, guys who have been training ROUGHLY the same amount of time. When you have 10 year Blue Belts, it ruins the system for all the honest people.
But Helio wore a blue belt and he had over 75 years of training. Lol
lol. ultimate sandbagger.
What do you know? The convicted rapist doesn’t have integrity. Shocker.
triforce -shen -I also remember seeing "Crazy" Bob Cook from AKA win the white belt division at a BJJ tournament. He had been training eight years at that point, according to him.
I knew a Luta Livre Black Belt from Brazil that (barely) won the IBJJF world's at Blue Belt. He had been grappling over 10 years.
I'd bet there are probably no gi tournaments where the "Advanced/Expert " division is easier than the intermediate division.
I mean, watching the last nogi worlds, it was just a bunch of nonsense; absurd sandbaging everywhere. There should be belt rank time limits on belts for competetors. You should NOT be able to compete for 6 years as a blue belt. They're destroying the entire point of having different colored belts ranks. They really should get rid of "World Championships" for anyone below Black Belt. It creates his nonsense. People think it's cool to have these super high level Blue Belts-- BUT NO! Blue belts are NOT supposed to be ultra high level grapplers who can tap a lot of Black Belts. --They're supposed to be Blue Belts! That is the entire point of having a colored belt system so people can compete with their PEERS, guys who have been training ROUGHLY the same amount of time. When you have 10 year Blue Belts, it ruins the system for all the honest people.
Agreed. Anyone who wins worlds/no gi worlds (white, blue, purple, brown) should automatically be promoted on the podium. You’ve reached the pinnacle, move on.
Even a high level wrestler who takes everyone down and wins via points despite having no guard and no submission skills?
The Mongolian judo team showed up to IBJJF world's one year and competed at blue belt IIRC.
Triple_B -The Mongolian judo team showed up to IBJJF world's one year and competed at blue belt IIRC.
If true, it does raise some interesting questions. Say one of them had minimal BJJ training and wanted to compete in BJJ's most prestigious tournament. It would be fraudulent to slap a black belt on one and have them compete in the black belt division if they didn't truly have that rank. Do you simply tell them...."You're too good to compete in the lower divisions. Come back when you earn your black belt." Plus, it's not like this is some small tournament...this is the Worlds which is supposed to have the best of the best. I'm not saying it's necessarily fair to have them compete in the blue belt division, but what are the alternatives? A BJJ world champ black belt would never be allowed or expected to compete with black belts in the Judo world championships so why should we expect an elite judoka to be held to a different standard?
^ But also, Judo doesn't have a bunch of "Green Belt World Champions".
BJJ is weird and I think the White,Blue,Purple & Brown Belt "World Champions" messes with the integrity of the sport and bottlenecks skilled people at lower belts, as mentioned above.
The first IBJJF tournament I did was as a white belt. The dude who won our division (and armbarred me) was a judo black belt. He medaled in the Asian Judo Championships as a black belt. And entered an IBJJF tournament as a white belt.
I just dont get sandbaggers and never will. Do they feel they have accomplished something? It’s like going down to the YMCA and beating toddlers at basketball.