Weidman absorbed a lot of pretty clean shots. He won't be able to do that forever.
Bry Bry -His personality isn't bland. Just because you don't know nearly as much about him doesn't mean he is bland.SirBadd - No question about it.. Weidman is the real deal but something about it that I can't seem to get..
His technique... His punches, His stance seems lacking something.. He feels ackward and doesn't look as threatening with his strikes vs the actual damage he does... I look at him fight and I find it hard to believe that he's defeated Lyoto and Anderson.
I look at Pettis, Aldo, Jones etc.. And I see that it facyor that shines out.. He looks so sverage yet he is accomplishing some great feats.
What an odd thing!
same thing here, i made a thread about this exact thing a few days ago..i dont understand what makes Weidman as good as he is as he isnt explosive and doesnt throw punches in bunches nor does he clam people like Cormier..he doesnt seem that technical with his striking or grappling so yes, im confused as well..he gets the job done though..props to him..just wish he wasnt so bland personality wise...ugghh
theBrink -Phisher -Caught_clean - He just inst the most flashy fighter, and people dont give him enough respect. His wrestling has more a of "it" factor then the named guys striking, he took down and controlled Machida more then Jones was able to.
Hes not super flashy but he gets it done.<br /> <p> <span class="User-349918" id="userPost50043990">Jones didn't commit to taking Machida down until the end of the second round, nor did he try to hold him there. He threw elbows and busted him open.</span></p> <p> <span class="User-349918" id="userPost50043990">It's also interesting to note that "feather fist" Jones hurt Machida worse with strikes than the guy who KO'd Anderson.</span></p> </blockquote> <span class="User-349918" id="userPost50043990">Feather fist?!?! The guy is a fucking light heavyweight. He hits hard trust me. You guys are so damn stupid some times. Anderson should have shown you it's not how hard you hit someone, but where you hit them and how their movement coincides with the strike. Machida was moving in towards jones and jones popped his ass right on the button. Rampage even said that jones hit him hard and rampage is known for taking shots <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>
Did I honestly have to write "this is meant to be ironic" in parenthesis after the feather fist comment? I thought that the fact that I put the words in quotation marks should have been enough convey what I meant.
In case you still don't take my meaning: last night should put the lie to the notions that Machida has a glass jaw and that Jones doesn't have any pop in his strikes.
Machida made that fight go to a decision not Weidman. And I called this before the fight I said that machida can make any fight go to a decision but there's no way he will win if it does because of his style. To me what machida did in the first 3 rounds wasn't counter striking 90% of the time. If you are backing up and jogging so hard the other guy can't even throw a punch what are you countering. If he stood in the pocket with Weidman the fight wouldn't have lasted 5 rounds. He was wobbled or flustered after most exchanges. Chris just has bombs in his hands. He's a tough dude and ate everything machida had and never blinked.
Aaron Becker -Phisher -Someone's a little salty Weidman wonCaught_clean - He just inst the most flashy fighter, and people dont give him enough respect. His wrestling has more a of "it" factor then the named guys striking, he took down and controlled Machida more then Jones was able to.
Hes not super flashy but he gets it done.
Jones didn't commit to taking Machida down until the end of the second round, nor did he try to hold him there. He threw elbows and busted him open.
It's also interesting to note that "feather fist" Jones hurt Machida worse with strikes than the guy who KO'd Anderson.
You better check my posting history before you go casting aspersions.
I like Weidman. I'm glad that he won, and I was picking him to win in the lead up to the fight. I've also consistently been denouncing the nonsense about his victories against Anderson being "flukes" for the past year.
Goblowyourself -Phisher -Caught_clean - He just inst the most flashy fighter, and people dont give him enough respect. His wrestling has more a of "it" factor then the named guys striking, he took down and controlled Machida more then Jones was able to.
Hes not super flashy but he gets it done.<br /> <p> <span class="User-306736" id="userPost50042868">Jones didn't commit to taking Machida down until the end of the second round, nor did he try to hold him there. He threw elbows and busted him open.</span></p> <p> <span class="User-306736" id="userPost50042868">It's also interesting to note that "feather fist" Jones hurt Machida worse with strikes than the guy who KO'd Anderson.</span></p> </blockquote> <span class="User-306736" id="userPost50042868">Really? Because we must have not been watching the same fight. See in the fight that the rest of us watched last night, Weidman busted the fuck out of machidas face and used awesome footwork to cut him off the whole time... <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>
I said that Jones hurt Machida worse than Weidman did not that Weidman didn't bash the shit out of Machida, especially in the third round.
And that's a fact. It took two solid strikes from Jones to incapacite Machida enough to slap on that standing guillotine. Weidman tried repeatedly put Machida in the same hold in the second and third, but Machida still had the wits to get out of it.
My comment was meant to disparage the people who've been claiming that Jones doesn't have fight changing power and that Machida has a glass jaw. It wasn't supposed to be a slight to Weidman.
He's very deceiving. He's one of the biggest if not the biggest MW's ever. He's a master at distance and timing. His technique looks awkward for sure. But that's what makes him so unique.
Wovito - Weidman absorbed a lot of pretty clean shots. He won't be able to do that forever.
Truth but Machida absorbed more. (however he has gone his whole career not taking much damage so he's probably in a good spot physically)
Just like the first punch Weidman landed in the 2nd Silva fight, baby grazing punch behind the ear and Anderson goes limp. After so many years your body just can't take it anymore. How many times do you think Anderson was KO'd in training? Especially in those early chutebox days
ausgepicht - Keyboard douchebag doesn't understand world championship technique so makes thread on his confusion..
LOL...each year this place spirals ever downward.
Weidman isn't explosive and doesn't finish guys with one punch.
He is a big strong guy with power in his strikes. His shot in round 1 or 2 (before he is tired) is as good as if not better than most of the higher weight class fighters. He is also persistent/unfazed despite a failed takedown or missing strikes. He has a good chin, keeps his hands up, and doesn't throw anything too wild. Add to that his reach and the fact that he can GnP or submit you on the ground and you have a very difficult opponent to beat.
Machida and Anderson are both better strikers than Weidman. If Machida had the power of Anderson or a TRT Vitor, the fight would have been over in the first or second round. Machida did land some clean punches, but he was always cautious due to the reach advantage and Weidman's takedowns. If Anderson had Machida's takedown defense, I see him KO'ing Weidman. Weidman happens to have the right combination of skills/physical attributes to beat his opponents.
Vikingknee - Machida made that fight go to a decision not Weidman. And I called this before the fight I said that machida can make any fight go to a decision but there's no way he will win if it does because of his style. To me what machida did in the first 3 rounds wasn't counter striking 90% of the time. If you are backing up and jogging so hard the other guy can't even throw a punch what are you countering. If he stood in the pocket with Weidman the fight wouldn't have lasted 5 rounds. He was wobbled or flustered after most exchanges. Chris just has bombs in his hands. He's a tough dude and ate everything machida had and never blinked.
^This^
It's hard to look like a superstar when the other guy doesn't want to really engage.
People can call Machida 'elusive" all they want, but anyone who's followed fighting for a decent amount of time knows that he's almost always on his bike.
True, he can KO guys after they get frustrated with him running away. However, give him a guy who either doesn't take the bait or forces him to stay in the pocket, he will lose.
JoeHurley -VTFU.
It's called mastering basics and solid fundamentals. No flashiness, inefficient moves or trickery. Just good technique. I mentioned in another thread how champions like Tim Duncan and Klitscho are seen the same as boring and unexciting because they use fundamentals to dominate more "entertaining" opponents. Majority of fans seem to prefer style over substance.
This is exactly what I was telling my friends last night.
JoeHurley -BAM!! This is it right here. ^^
It's called mastering basics and solid fundamentals. No flashiness, inefficient moves or trickery. Just good technique. I mentioned in another thread how champions like Tim Duncan and Klitscho are seen the same as boring and unexciting because they use fundamentals to dominate more "entertaining" opponents. Majority of fans seem to prefer style over substance.
Unless you're in the top .0024% you rarely get away with being flashy and still maintaining enough technique to dominate.
Weidman sticks to basics and does not throw slop and/or gamble much. A reason he is undefeated IMO.
Maybe he's the Mitt Romney of MMA? Just a bit of a personality that is not suited for the public - eg...he comes across boring?
Dude's an ultra aggressive alpha w/ balls of steel, and he's willing to take a couple to give some back. Couple that mentality with great wrestling, BJJ, and ridiculous range & timing...and you have a long reigning champ @ 185.
Weidman beat the sh*t out of a living legend twice. He's done proving anything to anybody. Now its all about solidifying his legacy. 
I trained for theater and one of my movement teachers had a really interesting analysis about Weidman. Often fighters develop a certain rhythm or musicality when it comes to their striking -- the same way an actor can fall into dancing when he should just be moving naturally. But that rhythm, while pleasing to look at, is actually counterintuitive and doesn't allow you a full range of motion of possibilities.
It was his opinion that Weidman was focused on efficiently performing the fundamentals, and was actually ahead of the curve since he didn't fall into that aesthetic trap. It made him less predictable and more confounding – which is the same thing you want from movement in performance.
He's a great fighter, but he's no fuck warrior
Pitbull3744 -MMALOGIC -/thread
here let me explain it for you...
Seeing a white guy beat the shit out of a black or brown guy doesnt look right... it looks off. A cracker shouldnt be able to do what he's doing.
Somebody should sit both your asses down and force you to watch Roy Nelson KTFO Check Kongo till your eyes bleed, Clockwork Orange style. You clearly both need it.
Rickson's Aura - Weidman isn't explosive and doesn't finish guys with one punch.Did you miss the first Silva fight? Or the Muniz fight? Those are pretty clearly explosive one punch wins. He followed them up like good fighters do but both guys were done when he connected.
He is a big strong guy with power in his strikes. His shot in round 1 or 2 (before he is tired) is as good as if not better than most of the higher weight class fighters. He is also persistent/unfazed despite a failed takedown or missing strikes. He has a good chin, keeps his hands up, and doesn't throw anything too wild. Add to that his reach and the fact that he can GnP or submit you on the ground and you have a very difficult opponent to beat.
Machida and Anderson are both better strikers than Weidman. If Machida had the power of Anderson or a TRT Vitor, the fight would have been over in the first or second round. Machida did land some clean punches, but he was always cautious due to the reach advantage and Weidman's takedowns. If Anderson had Machida's takedown defense, I see him KO'ing Weidman. Weidman happens to have the right combination of skills/physical attributes to beat his opponents.