** Who are the BEST managers in MMA? **

 For a manager that takes someone from green to champion, Monte Cox. It is not even at all close. Every other big name excells at helping guys who have made it, but no one has anything close to Monte's track record of taking a guy with a few fights and potential all the way to a world championship.

 

I sent you his contact info

Kirik -  For a manager that takes someone from green to champion, Monte Cox. It is not even at all close. Every other big name excells at helping guys who have made it, but no one has anything close to Monte's track record of taking a guy with a few fights and potential all the way to a world championship.
 
I sent you his contact info


I think Monte is your best bet!

 MONTE COX

 MONTE COX

Monte Cox

When Tank Abbott returned to the UFC they negotiated that two more (if I remember correctly) members of his camp would also get a contract with them, just for Tank to sign the deal. That sounds like a bit of manager magic and I would recommend that manager to anyone, whoever he is.

Kirik -  For a manager that takes someone from green to champion, Monte Cox. It is not even at all close. Every other big name excells at helping guys who have made it, but no one has anything close to Monte's track record of taking a guy with a few fights and potential all the way to a world championship.
 

12SixElbow -  Also, guys making thier debut aren't typically ready for managers.

Have a few local pro fights, see how they feel, go from there.
Not sure how many big time managers are going to work with guys who haven't even debued yet.




REAL managers who are really good, would absolutely take on a superstar to be at his early stage, since they know one when they see one, they tend to love to get on the bus early, like........Monte Cox.

 Brian Butler from SuckerPunch is a good guy. Met him on a few occassions. Very smart and marketing saavy guy with a good network of sponsors.

TTT Good luck

Also, anyway I can get Monty's contact info?

 I posted Montys contact info on page one (I know that he doesnt mind in case anybody was wondering)

Lots of great feedback on this thread, that is why the UG rules!  Anytime I've needed something related to MMA, the UG has always come through, thanks Kirik for your help and for providing such a great website.



Thanks to everyone for the feedback, much appreciated.  It's nice to hear from UFC vets, and a legend in Pat Miletich, about which managers to use when trying to get in the UFC.  Like I said, the UG rules.

Ron Foster, IMO.

Or Don Frye.

PhilBaroni -
JEllison - Monte Cox.

This fren Phone Post

Alchemist MMA - Nima Safapour Phone Post

Jason House of Iridium Sports Agency. Phone Post

stlnl2 - 
12SixElbow -  Also, guys making thier debut aren't typically ready for managers.



Have a few local pro fights, see how they feel, go from there.

Not sure how many big time managers are going to work with guys who haven't even debued yet.









REAL managers who are really good, would absolutely take on a superstar to be at his early stage, since they know one when they see one, they tend to love to get on the bus early, like........Monte Cox.
Right.



Because you can see a superstar who has never had a fight?

Idiotic statement. You can't draft a basketball player you've never seen play ball,

you can't scout football players who've never had a game.

Get the point?

You can't spot a STAR in the training room, it just doesn't work.

Too many guys are MONSTERS in the gym and fucking fold in a fight.



 

 For the record I wasn't trying to disrespect OP or his fighters.

(i'm sure they tough kids)



I just think you shouldn't put the cart before the horse.

Have a pro fight or two, THEN see if they need a manger and still want to be fighters.


 ttt to help out up and comers.

12SixElbow - 
stlnl2 - 
12SixElbow -  Also, guys making thier debut aren't typically ready for managers.



Have a few local pro fights, see how they feel, go from there.

Not sure how many big time managers are going to work with guys who haven't even debued yet.









REAL managers who are really good, would absolutely take on a superstar to be at his early stage, since they know one when they see one, they tend to love to get on the bus early, like........Monte Cox.
Right.



Because you can see a superstar who has never had a fight?

Idiotic statement. You can't draft a basketball player you've never seen play ball,

you can't scout football players who've never had a game.

Get the point?

You can't spot a STAR in the training room, it just doesn't work.

Too many guys are MONSTERS in the gym and fucking fold in a fight.



 


Actually, NBA scouts used to recruit sometimes out of high school, but I think there might be a new rule prohibiting it, but stars like Shawn Kemp were recruited straight from high school.  Pro soccer, internationally, is a much bigger and more popular sport than the NBA or NFL, and Real Madrid this year signed a 7 year old: http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6843531/real-madrid-signs-7-year-old-argentine-prospect-leonel-angel-coira



I think your intentions are good but I think you are misguided about how big a role the right manager can make from the get-go and the ability of talent scouts to notice potential great talent simply by watching a tryout.  It is not easy to do - but the right guys have the ability to do it.  Just like in anything in life, there are people that are alright - and then there are the specialists.  I'm looking for a specialist.



Also, I don't understand why they should get a pro-fight or two and THEN get a manager... what exactly would be different for the fighter?  Personally, I think early fights can be VERY challenging to setup and pick.  Furthermore, I think early bad losses can be psychologically terrible for a fighter.  I personally know a few VERY talented fighters that have 3-6 records because they were self-managed and early on fought fights they shouldn't had fought - and now the effects of those losses have a psychological consequence on their future fights.  These guys I'm talking about that have the 3-6 records are damn good and with better match selection, they could have easily started off with a 5-0 record, which changes things for the fighter's confidence and for potential to get noticed by bigger shows. 



In the past ten years I have cornered almost 300 fights, I actually keep the exact number, my team has gone 192-74-4, which is about a 72% win rate.  I coached and managed Jorge Masvidal to a 10-2 record, Ariel Gandulla to a 5-0 record and WEC Title Fight (he left our gym a few weeks before the title fight, I take no responsibility for what happened afterward), I got Charles McCarthy into the UFC, and I have coached a few guys into Strikeforce and Bellator.  However, these days I simply don't have the time to manage these guys, calling up promoters, looking up opponents, etc.  PLUS I know there are much better guys than me.



Furthermore, there are managers that are beasts with sponsorships and managing financial matters - even with guys that are nobodies.  I know certain guys with only a few fights making decent coin via sponsorship.



My point is that I'm 100% sure there are guys that produce consistent results in this industry and I'm looking for them.  I'm getting a lot of recommendations on here and via email - and I appreciate every recommendation by the way!  I'm very impressed at how helpful a lot of guys are being via email and on here.



12sixelbow, I know you are trying to help, I'm not trying to debate you, but the same way people are helping me here with advice, I want to be able to share my experiences and reasons for looking for good management so perhaps other young fighters can see another point of view and not suffer a string of early losses because they thought they weren't good enough to receive the right attention already.