trobinson21 - PunkGuy - All the witnesses ON RECORD have said:
1. there was an altercation at the cops window
some said Brown was trying to pull away
2. there was a shot fired at the car
3. Brown started to run away
4. Wilson (cop) got out and started firing
5. Brown was either hit or turned because of shots
6. Brown put hands up
7. Wilson continued firing
Any so-called witnesses saying Brown "charged" at the cop seem to be mysterious radio callers that happen to know someone who knows someone else, who knows a cop who knows Wilson.
Not credible.
If he had his hands up why wasn't he shot under his arm instead of the front bicep? Also, the "witness" said the officer grabbed Mike and pulled him into his car. Why in Earth would a policeman pull you into the driver seat? Finally, if you listen to the audio of the video of him laying on the ground, the other witness said Mike turned around and went back at the officer.
All of your "facts" are as good as my 'facts" it's all unknown, I do know he patrolled that city for over 6 years and never even assaulted anyone yet you folks believe he woke up that morning wanting to kill a black kid.
Some people's internal thought process is flawed by the angst they have for police because of the authority they represent.
"If he had his hands up why wasn't he shot under his arm instead of the front bicep?"
Dr. Biden press conference:
"8:11 AM PT: Says shot to lower arm "consistent" with either facing away or having arms up to surrender."
"Also, the "witness" said the officer grabbed Mike and pulled him into his car. Why in Earth would a policeman pull you into the driver seat?"
Pulled into car doesn't necessarily mean, he's laying on the cop. Could mean his upper body only.
Keep in mind, the witness said when they were walking (before the entire incident), the cop said:
"get the fuck on the sidewalk”
not exactly de-escalating the situation.
"the other witness said Mike turned around and went back at the officer."
One guy's statement, versus 4 others saying he didn't move. Plus that guy didn't say he charged at the officer. Listen to those gunshots and you'll see there's no way he could've "charged."
"I do know he patrolled that city for over 6 years and never even assaulted anyone"
You know that for a fact?
"The small city of Jennings, Mo., had a police department so troubled, and with so much tension between white officers and black residents, that the city council finally decided to disband it. Everyone in the Jennings police department was fired. New officers were brought in to create a credible department from scratch.
That was three years ago. One of the officers who worked in that department, and lost his job along with everyone else, was a young man named Darren Wilson."
So I guess you're wrong with your "I do know he patrolled that city for over 6 years..."
"Schottel got another unpleasant surprise when he sought the use-of-force history of the officers involved. He learned that before a new chief took over in 2010 the department had a surprising protocol for non-fatal use-of-force reports.
“The officer himself could complete it and give it to the supervisor for his approval,” the prior chief, Thomas Moonier, testified in a deposition. “I would read it. It would be placed in my out basket, and my secretary would probably take it and put it with the case file.”
No copy was made for the officer’s personnel file.
“Everything involved in an incident would generally be with the police report,” Moonier said. “I don’t know what they maintain in personnel files.”
“Who was in charge of personnel files, of maintaining them?” Schottel asked.
“I have no idea,” Moonier said. “I believe City Hall, but I don’t know.”