CaliKush - How many people are even checking Twitter, let alone ariels tweets when the fights are on? I was at a little party with a lot of people who follow the sport and no one expected the announcementSame with me. I was enjoying the promo for 200. Thinking it was different and well done. Then I hear Brock yelling, Can you see me now!? Was really cool.
BOZY -Theres usually five to ten minutes in between fights and thats when I hit up twitter.CaliKush - How many people are even checking Twitter, let alone ariels tweets when the fights are on? I was at a little party with a lot of people who follow the sport and no one expected the announcementSame with me. I was enjoying the promo for 200. Thinking it was different and well done. Then I hear Brock yelling, Can you see me now!? Was really cool.
I saw it on the forum, because I'm always watching the fights by myself, so I enjoy having somewhere to discuss the fights. I saw that Ariel reported it, but I didn't really believe it.
FighterSpirit -Exactly. VU. Except I don't give a fuck about him releasing the info early. But imo the nose isn't that great. Overly Canadian and interviewing skills suck. And he comes off as pompous at times.Remember this isn't the first time the UFC has had issues with him, especially regarding leaked information.
Take it from a business standpoint. You are about to announce a very big fight, one that will no doubt put their ratings over the million mark. And a journalist leaks the info moments before the UFC can announce it. It takes the surprise out of the announcement for the UFC, and could hurt business.
Yes I understand journalism but Ariel should have been smart enough to hold off on reporting until the UFC made it official. Literally wait seconds after the UFC announces it, then publish it.
You can bet if this had been done to Vince Mcmahon and the WWE, that reporter would have been treated exactly the same.
I for one am not a fan of Helwani at all. Everyone seems to think he is this great journalist but IMO he is not. He has connections to stories, then reports them. His interviewing skills are subpar.
something random -THIS is the fact.
Every you said is correct, but the UFC is not obliged to give credentials to anyone. And there is well documeted history of them fucking over people who realease info before they want it released. So Ariel was well aware of the potential consequences.
I'm not saying it was the RIGHT thing to do in a journalistc moral sense.
But i would have kicked his ass out too.
I'd let him be credentialed again after some time, but i definitely would have kicked him out for breaking the story moments before the big announcement. Just becuase he pulled a shitty move
You guys don't really just think Ariels dick is squeky clean in this situation do you? Delusional if you think anything legal will come of this.
He's the most popular reporter in the sport with the two most popular mma related talk shows on the net and the UFC banned him. They fucked up. Period.
hypothetical- room full of journalists. all know brock is going to be introduced in the ppv through a promo. room asked not to say anything until after the promo. 1 person out of the entire room decides to break the news. what would be the outcome?
He compromised their promotional efforts to beat his competitors to a story and they banned him. End of story
D241 -Lol I didn't even notice that YOU'RE getting my vote up
Hey Op, I just want to say there are 2 opinion statements you make, that you claim as fact.
Your post where you are calling out idiots, I just want to also point out that it is "you'RE retarded".
Your retarded cousin doesn't know the difference between fact and opinion.
You're retarded like your cousin.
See the difference?
Also Ariel being banned is complete bullshit, but OP is coming off in a way that stands out, I couldn't let it go.
I thought everybody hates ufc shills why are they protecting the biggest ufc paid shill ever now?
http://deadspin.com/blackballed-mma-reporter-admits-he-was-ufcs-paid-shill-1780851837
Curious how it hurts business. Just made me anxious to find out if it was true. I was more tuned in because of it.
bruised -1. This in no way hurts the bottom line of ppvs sold. Ufc is overreacting.something random -Yeah, I understand people being frustrated; however, in the end, the UFC is a business. If they think Ariel leaking the big news early hurts their business, than it's no surprise they pulled his credentials as it's their right to do so.
Every you said is correct, but the UFC is not obliged to give credentials to anyone. And there is well documeted history of them fucking over people who realease info before they want it released. So Ariel was well aware of the potential consequences.
FighterSpirit -You are not describing a free Press.Remember this isn't the first time the UFC has had issues with him, especially regarding leaked information.
Take it from a business standpoint. You are about to announce a very big fight, one that will no doubt put their ratings over the million mark. And a journalist leaks the info moments before the UFC can announce it. It takes the surprise out of the announcement for the UFC, and could hurt business.
Yes I understand journalism but Ariel should have been smart enough to hold off on reporting until the UFC made it official. Literally wait seconds after the UFC announces it, then publish it.
You can bet if this had been done to Vince Mcmahon and the WWE, that reporter would have been treated exactly the same.
I for one am not a fan of Helwani at all. Everyone seems to think he is this great journalist but IMO he is not. He has connections to stories, then reports them. His interviewing skills are subpar.
BubblesNS -And you are confusing freedom of the press. Freedom of the press refers to the ability of news outlets to report without fear of government interference, censorship, or punishment. It does not refer to a private institution's choice to let a reporter into their venue. I think it's despicable too, but as a private institution Zuffa can ban whoever the hell they want.FighterSpirit -You are not describing a free Press.Remember this isn't the first time the UFC has had issues with him, especially regarding leaked information.
Take it from a business standpoint. You are about to announce a very big fight, one that will no doubt put their ratings over the million mark. And a journalist leaks the info moments before the UFC can announce it. It takes the surprise out of the announcement for the UFC, and could hurt business.
Yes I understand journalism but Ariel should have been smart enough to hold off on reporting until the UFC made it official. Literally wait seconds after the UFC announces it, then publish it.
You can bet if this had been done to Vince Mcmahon and the WWE, that reporter would have been treated exactly the same.
I for one am not a fan of Helwani at all. Everyone seems to think he is this great journalist but IMO he is not. He has connections to stories, then reports them. His interviewing skills are subpar.
BubblesNS -Yea he is. Ariel is free to report any news he wants. However the UFC is free to issue/not issue credentials to anyone they want as well.FighterSpirit -You are not describing a free Press.Remember this isn't the first time the UFC has had issues with him, especially regarding leaked information.
Take it from a business standpoint. You are about to announce a very big fight, one that will no doubt put their ratings over the million mark. And a journalist leaks the info moments before the UFC can announce it. It takes the surprise out of the announcement for the UFC, and could hurt business.
Yes I understand journalism but Ariel should have been smart enough to hold off on reporting until the UFC made it official. Literally wait seconds after the UFC announces it, then publish it.
You can bet if this had been done to Vince Mcmahon and the WWE, that reporter would have been treated exactly the same.
I for one am not a fan of Helwani at all. Everyone seems to think he is this great journalist but IMO he is not. He has connections to stories, then reports them. His interviewing skills are subpar.
Ariel cares about himself, first. fact. Ariel doesnt care about the UG, fact.
I think he comitted career suicide today in his podcast. He should have stayed silent outside of the straight facts about what happened. Eventually he and Dana would have worked something out after a small timeout to remind him who's boss. But now he's embarrassing the UFC they won't forgive
Morpheus1976 -Australia got itLet me say this, I missed the announcement while watching commercials on BT sport 2.
so only USA got the news directly!!!
I remember when Ariel first started doing interviews at events. He stuck out immediately, because he was the first real professional. Before Ariel it was shit like Greg Savage standing behind a camera, throwing out questions. Ariel was truly a pioneer of mma media, without a doubt.