Too many defensive liabilities in a division full of strikers instead of majority grapplers he faced during his reign.
Reem is old now thats why. DUH! And I brought him up because he’s a guy around kickin ass back then and still got a title shot during the “MMA is Lght Years ahead of the game” time you speak of.
Yes Prime Andy with his speed and timing was MUCH better than broken leg old Silva. again DUH!
Oh man, those calf kicks, fuck what would Liddell do?
Oh you think chubby chinny Reem beats the best Ubereem version of himself now?
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Damn Anderson had some power behind that kick! Probably hurt like hell for Chris as well.
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That was from about 10 yrs ago!
Spong broke his 9 yrs ago.
Not a new Light years ahead technique your talin here guy!
Its fucking checked kicks gone wrong.
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So? How about you focus on the point instead of looking for little things to nitpick. No? Okay. Ill try it your way. Hold on…
It was Uriah Hall, not Spong you dipshit. Now bug off guy!
What point?
Im sayin older fighter of only 10 yrs ago could win the title today if they were in primes.
your cryin about futuristic leg kicks they couldnt survive from…
Where are you going with this?
And Right here Faggot.
Now you go fuck off and suck another dick today!
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I am a huge chuck fan. He was the first real superstar in the UFC.
Jon jones and Cormier wreck him. He has a very good chance at beating anyone else in the division.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
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JJ hasnt fought in how long, going up to HW maybe. and DC is retired.
Its Chuck vs the guys fighting at LHW on the roster right now,.
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I don’t know how the context keeps getting lost here but the topic of this Thread was Prime Chuck vs the CURRENT LHW Division.
Everyone mentioning Jones, DC, and Rumble are doing 2 things they might not be aware of:
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Missing the point of this thread as not one of them are in the CURRENT UFC LHW DIVISION
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And By saying Jones or DC beats these guys then you are contradicting yourself because that statement in itself means the Division has gone backwards from then until now. Otherwise the Current Champ should always beat the Old Champs yet people are not convinced right now which is why there is even this Discussion.
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They’re not in todays LHW division now are they though
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You are right. In todays LHW division he could easily be the champion. Prozaska moves weird and has crappy defense. If Liddell had hit him with a right hand prozaska would have crumbled.
Liddell wasn’t the most technical striker but he had dynamite in his fists
He was losing a lot of fights until he wasn’t because he had huge power
A whole different discussion but one that would be more fair to the old school fighters but also more speculative would be…. What if it Chuck was born in this era so it wasn’t just Prime Chuck but a version of Chuck that got the benefit of what this eras fighters got that was built off the backs of pioneers…
So we are talking about access to the best training, best diet and nutrition, best coaches and sparring partners, access to footage of every fight ever and ever opponent or style ever so you can specifically cater training which is a luxury the old schoolers didn’t get because they had to fight the Unknown which was not even comparable to fighting a studied opponent. You could go on and on about these luxuries. MONEY $$$ earned and spent is another huge one. THAT would be the more fair discussion but it is harder to analyze because it is speculation.
I might lose some of you with that but I’ve always thought it would be more of an apples to apples comparison.
Obviously different generations so he’d not have the skillset. But he’d have the potential if trained like today’s guys. His natural power & his accuracy were nuts…
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If you used a time machine to bring Chuck from 2005 to present he’d knock them all out in 2022. Course I also think that Royce Gracie would pull guard & easily sub Usman.
And Rocky Marciano would knock Tyson Fury the fuck out. Even if he could only reach his knee.
Basically… I’m an idiot.
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Well you’re right about Liddell at least
Both counter strikers.