For everyone who wasted their time with BJJ, would you go back in time and take Sambo if offered?

[BannedUser]

I went to a kron seminar.

Pretty slick

[CrabScissors]

@anon40977991

I disagree. Most untrained people don’t have good TDD. Like example, Im 100% sure I can take you down.

Facts.

[Squishy1]

@anon40977991

Most untrained people don’t have good TDD.

Very true.

[Bignightmare2]

Most bjj guys will have better td than normal people. That said, I look like an accountant unless you notice my ears. I was a D1 wrestler and have trained for 35 years in wrestling, bjj and muay thai. I’m not going down. Our school trains everything. Wall takedowns, open mat takedowns, striking and ground.

[JackMerridew]

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@Bignightmare2

Sambo is a decent art but it isn’t what bjj is and anyone saying different hasn’t rolled with good sambo guys versus hood bjj guys. I have rolled with world champs in both arts and it is not comparable. I have a bjj leg locker buddy that has a photo of X-rays on his phone from when he rolled with 2 Sambo world champs. The X-rays show a metal plate and 6 screws holding a leg together. The emphasis on takedowns is better than bjj though.

Takedowns are what win fights and Khabib and Islam destroy BJJ guys all the time on the ground as well.

Without takedowns and striking BJJ is laughable in street fight or MMA type scenarios.

Yes but takedowns are part of BJJ, just not as the main focus. Fine for a self defense situation

So zero striking and pathetically limited takedowns. BJJ may just get you killed in a self defence situation.

I disagree. Most untrained people don’t have good TDD. Like example, Im 100% sure I can take you down.

Anthony Smith is equipped with full MMA training is a beast of a man and he was getting all he can handle from an untrained crack head trying to rob him, and then we have these BJJ nerds trying to get themselves killed in street fights.

[anon40977991]

@Bignightmare2

Most bjj guys will have better td than normal people. That said, I look like an accountant unless you notice my ears. I was a D1 wrestler and have trained for 35 years in wrestling, bjj and muay thai. I’m not going down. Our school trains everything. Wall takedowns, open mat takedowns, striking and ground.

Yeah my gym does the same. We have a kid from the national team that trains here, its pretty terrifying lol

[anon40977991]

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@Bignightmare2

Sambo is a decent art but it isn’t what bjj is and anyone saying different hasn’t rolled with good sambo guys versus hood bjj guys. I have rolled with world champs in both arts and it is not comparable. I have a bjj leg locker buddy that has a photo of X-rays on his phone from when he rolled with 2 Sambo world champs. The X-rays show a metal plate and 6 screws holding a leg together. The emphasis on takedowns is better than bjj though.

Takedowns are what win fights and Khabib and Islam destroy BJJ guys all the time on the ground as well.

Without takedowns and striking BJJ is laughable in street fight or MMA type scenarios.

Yes but takedowns are part of BJJ, just not as the main focus. Fine for a self defense situation

So zero striking and pathetically limited takedowns. BJJ may just get you killed in a self defence situation.

I disagree. Most untrained people don’t have good TDD. Like example, Im 100% sure I can take you down.

Anthony Smith is equipped with full MMA training is a beast of a man and he was getting all he can handle from an untrained crack head trying to rob him, and then we have these BJJ nerds trying to get themselves killed in street fights.

You tucked, Cause you know you’d get smashed.

[JackMerridew]

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@Bignightmare2

Sambo is a decent art but it isn’t what bjj is and anyone saying different hasn’t rolled with good sambo guys versus hood bjj guys. I have rolled with world champs in both arts and it is not comparable. I have a bjj leg locker buddy that has a photo of X-rays on his phone from when he rolled with 2 Sambo world champs. The X-rays show a metal plate and 6 screws holding a leg together. The emphasis on takedowns is better than bjj though.

Takedowns are what win fights and Khabib and Islam destroy BJJ guys all the time on the ground as well.

Without takedowns and striking BJJ is laughable in street fight or MMA type scenarios.

Yes but takedowns are part of BJJ, just not as the main focus. Fine for a self defense situation

So zero striking and pathetically limited takedowns. BJJ may just get you killed in a self defence situation.

I disagree. Most untrained people don’t have good TDD. Like example, Im 100% sure I can take you down.

Anthony Smith is equipped with full MMA training is a beast of a man and he was getting all he can handle from an untrained crack head trying to rob him, and then we have these BJJ nerds trying to get themselves killed in street fights.

Cause you know you’d get smashed.

Go be a D level fighter than never makes a penny and somehow gets even more busted all you like

[anon40977991]

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@Bignightmare2

Sambo is a decent art but it isn’t what bjj is and anyone saying different hasn’t rolled with good sambo guys versus hood bjj guys. I have rolled with world champs in both arts and it is not comparable. I have a bjj leg locker buddy that has a photo of X-rays on his phone from when he rolled with 2 Sambo world champs. The X-rays show a metal plate and 6 screws holding a leg together. The emphasis on takedowns is better than bjj though.

Takedowns are what win fights and Khabib and Islam destroy BJJ guys all the time on the ground as well.

Without takedowns and striking BJJ is laughable in street fight or MMA type scenarios.

Yes but takedowns are part of BJJ, just not as the main focus. Fine for a self defense situation

So zero striking and pathetically limited takedowns. BJJ may just get you killed in a self defence situation.

I disagree. Most untrained people don’t have good TDD. Like example, Im 100% sure I can take you down.

Anthony Smith is equipped with full MMA training is a beast of a man and he was getting all he can handle from an untrained crack head trying to rob him, and then we have these BJJ nerds trying to get themselves killed in street fights.

Cause you know you’d get smashed.

Go be a D level fighter than never makes a penny and somehow gets even more busted all you like

The difference is, I have the balls to attempt it. You hide behind the keyboard

[shen]

Yeah, there’s a LOT of variability in BJJ schools when it comes to takedowns. Sure, some schools teach no takedowns, but I’d wager the majority train takedowns to some level --some to a fairly high level, actually.

BJJ is a “big tent” martial art. It’s being practiced a lot of different ways these days.

When I see these dumb "BJJ guys do this"type threads (like this one) the things said often have nothing to do with how I --and a ton of other people-- train BJJ.

Sport BJJ with a gi is just one part of BJJ, not the entire universe.

[anon40977991]

@shen

Yeah, there’s a LOT of variability in BJJ schools when it comes to takedowns. Sure, some schools teach no takedowns, but I’d wager the majority train takedowns to some level --some to a fairly high level, actually.

BJJ is a “big tent” martial art. It’s being practiced a lot of different ways these days.

When I see these dumb “BJJ guy do this” threads (like this one) the things said often have nothing to do with how I --and a ton of other people-- train BJJ.

Sport BJJ with a gi is just one part of BJJ, not the entire universe.

Especially with the big influence of wrestling/no gi/ADCC, the future is bright, the evolution is actually going in a good direction

[JackMerridew]

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@Bignightmare2

Sambo is a decent art but it isn’t what bjj is and anyone saying different hasn’t rolled with good sambo guys versus hood bjj guys. I have rolled with world champs in both arts and it is not comparable. I have a bjj leg locker buddy that has a photo of X-rays on his phone from when he rolled with 2 Sambo world champs. The X-rays show a metal plate and 6 screws holding a leg together. The emphasis on takedowns is better than bjj though.

Takedowns are what win fights and Khabib and Islam destroy BJJ guys all the time on the ground as well.

Without takedowns and striking BJJ is laughable in street fight or MMA type scenarios.

Yes but takedowns are part of BJJ, just not as the main focus. Fine for a self defense situation

So zero striking and pathetically limited takedowns. BJJ may just get you killed in a self defence situation.

I disagree. Most untrained people don’t have good TDD. Like example, Im 100% sure I can take you down.

Anthony Smith is equipped with full MMA training is a beast of a man and he was getting all he can handle from an untrained crack head trying to rob him, and then we have these BJJ nerds trying to get themselves killed in street fights.

Cause you know you’d get smashed.

Go be a D level fighter than never makes a penny and somehow gets even more busted all you like

The difference is, I have the balls to attempt it. You hide behind the keyboard

Pretend you know anything about me obsessed faggot.

Rent Free

[anon40977991]

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@anon40977991

@JackMerridew

@Bignightmare2

Sambo is a decent art but it isn’t what bjj is and anyone saying different hasn’t rolled with good sambo guys versus hood bjj guys. I have rolled with world champs in both arts and it is not comparable. I have a bjj leg locker buddy that has a photo of X-rays on his phone from when he rolled with 2 Sambo world champs. The X-rays show a metal plate and 6 screws holding a leg together. The emphasis on takedowns is better than bjj though.

Takedowns are what win fights and Khabib and Islam destroy BJJ guys all the time on the ground as well.

Without takedowns and striking BJJ is laughable in street fight or MMA type scenarios.

Yes but takedowns are part of BJJ, just not as the main focus. Fine for a self defense situation

So zero striking and pathetically limited takedowns. BJJ may just get you killed in a self defence situation.

I disagree. Most untrained people don’t have good TDD. Like example, Im 100% sure I can take you down.

Anthony Smith is equipped with full MMA training is a beast of a man and he was getting all he can handle from an untrained crack head trying to rob him, and then we have these BJJ nerds trying to get themselves killed in street fights.

Cause you know you’d get smashed.

Go be a D level fighter than never makes a penny and somehow gets even more busted all you like

The difference is, I have the balls to attempt it. You hide behind the keyboard

Pretend you know anything about me obsessed faggot.

Rent Free

I just like picking easy prey like Khabib. Also, Im not the one using emojis.

[williepep]

@Bignightmare2

Most bjj guys will have better td than normal people. That said, I look like an accountant unless you notice my ears. I was a D1 wrestler and have trained for 35 years in wrestling, bjj and muay thai. I’m not going down. Our school trains everything. Wall takedowns, open mat takedowns, striking and ground.

Are you the CA guy that was familiar with/knew Daryl Pope ?

Sorry I remember stories etc, but am bad at recalling screen names.

[Bignightmare2]

@williepep

Are you the CA guy that was familiar with/knew Daryl Pope ?

Sorry I remember stories etc, but am bad at recalling screen names

Yes he was my assistant coach in college. He is a fucking animal. I would not want to fight that man for any reason and I would fight anybody.

[JackMerridew]

@anon40977991

I just like picking easy prey like Khabib. Also, Im not the one using emojis.

[CrabScissors]

I was a guard puller for the first 6 years or so, until brown. I only did takedowns during MMA and shoot boxing rounds, and for some reason at BJJ comps. My wrestling was garbage but my shots were enough to take down most guys I fought. I even hit a lat drop in a fight once having never drilled it. I had the guy up an against the cage in over under clinch and just thought “oh this is the place to do a lat drop I think”. To have that blue belt confidence again…

Enjoying learning more wrestling now. But fuck man doing it live I feel like the risk of injury is so high (my knees are fucked and I have a bunch of spine problems now). I’m sure it’s just because I’m not good at it yet, but the rush of injury feels 100x what ne waza is

[justsomedude86]

100%… I did boxing, wrestling, muay thai, jiu jitsu, you name it… sambo is one of the best/hardest things to learn… trained at the only sambo school in colorado for a bit and the coach there is one tough son of a bitch…

this was a few years ago… dude was 50 and still moved like a cat… he also taught knife/sword fighting… fucking loved that gym

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@CrabScissors

I was a butt flopper for the first 6 years or so

Fixed

-Train Judo

[TwentyNineTwentyEight]

It never will be either.