this was overall a very good post onepunch. i might have a few nits here and there, but overall very good, so best i just leave it at that jaja.
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did i see above someone say they think usyk beats a prime tyson? iām looking for it, but i canāt find it, maybe i read it wrong. but if someone said that please point them out, i want to mark down the low iq posters jajajaā¦
Thanks.
I just edited it for some typos and to add a wrinkle hear and there ā if you wan to read it again LOL.
Againā¦ Wilder got big bonus points in my book after the other night.
Iām not a fan of his lack of respect after the loss, but that has nothing to do with his ability.
Dude hits like a grenade, is tough as nails, and has a hell of a chin.
No doubt.
Was probably OP.
But he probably thinks everyone Tyson didnāt fight would have beat him LOL.
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read it again onepunch, i agree on all points. i think i WOULD take 90s tyson over wilder, although probably just barely.
i too think fury is a tough matchup for tyson with his size, its well known that tyson had trouble with big tall guys with good jabs. tony tucker fight comes to mind. a much taller guy than tyson, and a kinda-sorta tough fight for tyson, although he clearly won. while tucker probably had more power than fury, he had (i think anyways) less size and less movement. so in my mind those fights could go almost any way, no one can predict. i still think PRIME tyson will on average more often than not get inside on fury and land bombs to the body and head, repeatedly in fact succession, and fury probably cannot withstand those like he can the single shots from wilder. but again those fights are kind of pick-em, canāt logically prove a given outcome even on average.
i got prime, roided-to-the-gills holyfield over prime wilder fairly easy. you were NOT going to knock holyfield out, period. and he set a very fast pace, always pressuring, and had solid punching power. as game as wilder is, i think holyfield wears him down for a late ko, kind of like holyfield-tyson 1 (or hell fury-wilder 3).
but pretty much agreed on all points jajaā¦
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Cool manā¦good conversation!
I mentioned I want to see Usyk and Joshua vs Tyson (Fury) and Joshua.
Iād favor Fury of the 4, but want to see it.
Didnt mention Mike Tyson vs Usyk though.
Fury Is a tough matchup for anyone in any era just based on his incredible size and boxing skill set.
He is massive, not only extremely tall but also a big guy with a very long reach.
And he can box damn good! He has been boxing since he popped out of the womb. He is very slick and abnormally agile for a guy that big. With good cardio and a great chin and ability to recover even when rocked.
Just by those metrics he is a very tough fight for anyone. Iām not saying he would beat everyone from any era.
But it would be interesting. There are guys who can box better. There are guys who hit harder and could also box well. But could they beat him? Who knows. But I think he belongs in the conversation.
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Mike was in his early 20s when he lost to Douglas. And he was a 100-1 favorite because he was overrated by fanboys like you.
Iāve heard every excuse in the world from āhe was over trainedā to āhe was on crackā
Buster Douglasās mom died right before the fight which was def a huge distraction and he still won. No excuses
If Tyson fought Wilder then Wilder survives the early storm and makes him quit with the first right he lands.
You made a thread saying Vitor had no chance against 60 year old Holyfield when anyone who understands boxing knew Holyfield had no chance based on his training footage. But clearly Iām the low IQ troll 
Mike Tyson who lost to bums like Douglas, Williams, and McBride isnāt beating any top 5 modern heavyweight.
But I wouldnāt expect you to comprehend that after your Vitor Holyfield prediction
Reasonable post. If I could see Fury vs anyone in a time machine it would be Lewis.
It would prob be a boring 1 sided fight where Fury wins by decision, but thatās the only 1900s heavyweight I could see putting up a struggle
I literally posted my top 5 GOAT and Fury wasnāt in it. In fact heās not in my top 10.
But he beats anyone from any era in a hypothetical prime vs prime match up
My top 10 (accomplishments)
- Ali
- Louis
- Holmes
- Wladimir
- Lewis
- Johnson
- Dempsey
- Holyfield
- Marciano
- Foreman
Fury is somewhere between 11-15 rn. I could see him catapulting to 6 if he unifies the division for the first time in 20 years and then slowly creeping towards the top as he beats more world champions
Fury is the best ever as far as prime vs prime no past heavyweight could handle his size and skill. I never said he has the GOAT accomplishments
If Fury can unify the belts and defend once I donāt think you can deny him GOAT status. Would like to see him take Usyk and AJ out and retire on top
I could see that. I think heād need a few more wins to be GOAT.
But if he unified against Usyk then defended against AJ, Povetkin, Ruiz, and Whyte then retires undefeated
Added to the fact that heās already beat Klitschko and Wilder 3x that would be the best top heavy resume ever IMO and def put him in GOAT discussion
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I think anyone with a functioning brain agrees fury destroys every past heavyweight with ease
The only real argument is who is the most accomplished
Fury would get murdered by one of those 5ā10ā heavyweights of the past.
For the same reason an NFL player from the 1970ās would just run right over the whipper snappers playing today with their weight lifting & their vitamins and their not smoking cigars on the sidelines.
Look at the record books.
Name one single weight lifting or running record thats been broken in the last couple generations. No way
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Yup. And those 6 feet tall cab drivers in 1970s NBA would tear todayās soft snowflake players apart. Todayās NBA is just too soft and has no defense. Those old guys may look like they have high school level skill but theyāre way better than todayās players. Trust me
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This gentleman is dropping knowledge, but if weāre talking in relative terms, Joe Louis should be in every heavyweight GOAT discussion.
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Yep. He was the best for longest. Klitchsko should be close behind
No Frazier?
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