Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Biggest women's fight in history, Making millions, and an opportunity to settle a rivalry=no incentive
yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.
Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now.
you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.
Ronda said that she only takes fights she knows she will win:
BigTedBear - Rhonda doesn't want any part of Cris she went down a weight class already to avoid her.
Cris v Holly is the more interesting fight but they should get Cris a few more fights to introduce her to casual UFC fans.
Are you talking about the time period when Cris was ingesting steroids that men use? And that she still retains the effects from.
You're an idiot. I like you but we've taken muscle off her---real muscle weight. The woman fought at her lightest weight in 10 years...and you're saying she has retained strength from 5 years ago despite this being her 4th fight under usada...
BigTedBear - Rhonda doesn't want any part of Cris she went down a weight class already to avoid her.
Cris v Holly is the more interesting fight but they should get Cris a few more fights to introduce her to casual UFC fans.
Are you talking about the time period when Cris was ingesting steroids that men use? And that she still retains the effects from.
You're an idiot. I like you but we've taken muscle off her---real muscle weight. The woman fought at her lightest weight in 10 years...and you're saying she has retained strength from 5 years ago despite this being her 4th fight under usada...
Ray, was George Lockhart wrong when he said she'd be in the ring up to 168 on Saturday?
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
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<span class="User-345137" id="userPost57152637">yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.</span></blockquote>
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you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.</blockquote>
Ronda said that she only takes fights she knows she will win:<br />
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https://youtu.be/FeUm7mbjMow<br />
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2:57 minute mark.<br />
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Cyborg is clean. Ronda is ducking her. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Besides the millions it will make ?
Ronda made millions fighting Bethe Correia. Why accomodate a 170lb woman by fighting her at 140?
I want to see Cyborg vs Ronda big time, but I also know it will never happen. Money is not the incentive to get Ronda in the cage. Despite the dumb things she says in the media, one of the smart things RR said is how she lives well below her means. She bought a house, and is putting most of her money in the bank iirc.
Millions for a quick beating of Bethe vs more millions against the most frightening woman on the planet? Will never, ever happen.
The only way I see this happening is if Cyborg makes 135, mauls the champ, then calls out Ronda to put the media pressure on her.
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Biggest women's fight in history, Making millions, and an opportunity to settle a rivalry=no incentive
yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.
Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now.
you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.
After Cris' suspension, Ronda said that she'd fight her at 140.
Do you have a source? being serious... cause I've never heard her say she would reward the cheater...she's been pretty consistent about that.
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
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<span class="User-345137" id="userPost57152637">yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.</span></blockquote>
<span class="User-345137" id="userPost57152637">Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>
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you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.</blockquote>
Ronda said that she only takes fights she knows she will win:<br />
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https://youtu.be/FeUm7mbjMow<br />
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2:57 minute mark.<br />
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Cyborg is clean. Ronda is ducking her. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>
Here you go JustAnotherMMAFan
Thanks! She didn't take a fight against Cyborg because she knew she would not win.
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Biggest women's fight in history, Making millions, and an opportunity to settle a rivalry=no incentive
yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.
Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now.
you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.
After Cris' suspension, Ronda said that she'd fight her at 140.
Do you have a source? being serious... cause I've never heard her say she would reward the cheater...she's been pretty consistent about that.
Dana White isn't opposed to Cyborg vs. Rousey at a 140 lb catchweight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjNntHFpJT4
Ronda says she would fight Cris at 140 if Dana asks, @5:30: https://youtu.be/KblQB4VmqMo?t=5m30s
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Biggest women's fight in history, Making millions, and an opportunity to settle a rivalry=no incentive
yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.
Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now.
you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.
After Cris' suspension, Ronda said that she'd fight her at 140.
Do you have a source? being serious... cause I've never heard her say she would reward the cheater...she's been pretty consistent about that.
This is all fascinating, but Cyborg said many times she would fight Ronda at 135. Not "I'm open to it", which is all Ronda said about fighting at 140; but actually agreeing to the fight at that weight.
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
There is no title talk any longer. Just a fight with a fighter that was in the same division that Ronda was when she started her career. As soon as title got mentioned she went to 135.
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Biggest women's fight in history, Making millions, and an opportunity to settle a rivalry=no incentive
yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.
Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now.
you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.
After Cris' suspension, Ronda said that she'd fight her at 140.
Do you have a source? being serious... cause I've never heard her say she would reward the cheater...she's been pretty consistent about that.
This is all fascinating, but Cyborg said many times she would fight Ronda at 135. Not "I'm open to it", which is all Ronda said about fighting at 140; but actually agreeing to the fight at that weight.
Both fighters have said a lot. Ronda said she would fight at 140 if Dana asked. Call it "fascinating" but she said it and should back it up.
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Biggest women's fight in history, Making millions, and an opportunity to settle a rivalry=no incentive
yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.
Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now.
you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.
After Cris' suspension, Ronda said that she'd fight her at 140.
Do you have a source? being serious... cause I've never heard her say she would reward the cheater...she's been pretty consistent about that.
This is all fascinating, but Cyborg said many times she would fight Ronda at 135. Not "I'm open to it", which is all Ronda said about fighting at 140; but actually agreeing to the fight at that weight.
No that's not all that Ronda said.
Ronda has stated multiple times that she would fight Cyborg at 140. And in the provided clip, she said, "I would."
Probably because there is zero incentive for Ronda to fight a 168lb Cyborg in a meaningless catchweight fight, as opposed to fighting Miesha or Nunes or Holly for the 135 title.
Biggest women's fight in history, Making millions, and an opportunity to settle a rivalry=no incentive
yeah, it's crazy that Cyborg won't cut the weight.
Why would you want her to? You realize that she tried, right? The fact of the matter is she offered to fight at 140 and Ronda turned it down. She's ducked her for years. I'd be surprised if fatty can make 135 now.
you realize that ronda said many times she won't reward a cheater. Stupid arguments on there. Ya know... a 115 can make 140 as well... if cyborg can't make the weight (4 more pounds, c'mon) then shut the fuck up. The ball has been in her court for years and she's refused.
After Cris' suspension, Ronda said that she'd fight her at 140.
Do you have a source? being serious... cause I've never heard her say she would reward the cheater...she's been pretty consistent about that.
This is all fascinating, but Cyborg said many times she would fight Ronda at 135. Not "I'm open to it", which is all Ronda said about fighting at 140; but actually agreeing to the fight at that weight.
Both fighters have said a lot. Ronda said she would fight at 140 if Dana asked. Call it "fascinating" but she said it and should back it up.
Yes, Ronda said that...and of course Dana would never ask, because why would they want to put their biggest star in a fight with a vastly less popular fighter under conditions that are advantageous to the latter? It's like if Demian Maia said "hey I want to fight Conor McGregor, make him fight me at 165"...why would either Conor or the UFC want to do that?
Why shouldn't Cyborg have to "back up" her multiple statements that she would drop to 135?
Cyborg should back up what she said. So should Ronda that she would fight Cyborg. See I think both fighters should do what they've said. That's the difference IMO. You only hold Cyborg accountable to what she says.
Samoa - Cyborg should back up what she said. So should Ronda that she would fight Cyborg. See I think both fighters should do what they've said. That's the difference IMO. You only hold Cyborg accountable to what she says.
I don't think either needs to be "held accountable". I think that's a silly concept. If neither wants to fight at the other's weight, there is no need for them to fight.
I'm saying I don't get why people say "but but Ronda said" when Cyborg also said she'd do 135.
Cyborg has three 135ers she wants to fight, Ronda has zero people above 135 she wants to fight. Even Cyborg and her own promoter never seem to have a clue who she is going to fight next, because there really is nobody at 145.
Lol @ ronda's fan boys making excuses for her.... Not ONE has said that they think RR could beat cyborg, even "under the right circumstances." I'm so glad holy kicked her head off, at least we have that. I remember a time when open weight tournaments/fights were a thing......I remember when fighters fought for their PRIDE....Ronda is so dilusional, prideful, and arrogant; you'd think she would fight Cyborg for her own ego. What would it mean for WMMA if RR were to beat cyborg? It's always cheater this, cut the extra weight that. They need to have a triple threat, no dq match between RR, cyborg, and Gabi for the absolute women's championship belt. Settle this once and for all. #dontbescaredhomie
BigTedBear - Rhonda doesn't want any part of Cris she went down a weight class already to avoid her.
Cris v Holly is the more interesting fight but they should get Cris a few more fights to introduce her to casual UFC fans.
Are you talking about the time period when Cris was ingesting steroids that men use? And that she still retains the effects from.
You're an idiot. I like you but we've taken muscle off her---real muscle weight. The woman fought at her lightest weight in 10 years...and you're saying she has retained strength from 5 years ago despite this being her 4th fight under usada...
Ray, was George Lockhart wrong when he said she'd be in the ring up to 168 on Saturday?
Samoa - Cyborg should back up what she said. So should Ronda that she would fight Cyborg. See I think both fighters should do what they've said. That's the difference IMO. You only hold Cyborg accountable to what she says.
I don't think either needs to be "held accountable". I think that's a silly concept. If neither wants to fight at the other's weight, there is no need for them to fight.
I'm saying I don't get why people say "but but Ronda said" when Cyborg also said she'd do 135.
Cyborg has three 135ers she wants to fight, Ronda has zero people above 135 she wants to fight. Even Cyborg and her own promoter never seem to have a clue who she is going to fight next, because there really is nobody at 145.
I only see you writing negative things about Cyborg and talking about what she said. I'm saying that both fighters haven't done what they have said they would. Them not fighting each other, ESPECIALLY now, is both their fault.
BigTedBear - Rhonda doesn't want any part of Cris she went down a weight class already to avoid her.
Cris v Holly is the more interesting fight but they should get Cris a few more fights to introduce her to casual UFC fans.
Are you talking about the time period when Cris was ingesting steroids that men use? And that she still retains the effects from.
You're an idiot. I like you but we've taken muscle off her---real muscle weight. The woman fought at her lightest weight in 10 years...and you're saying she has retained strength from 5 years ago despite this being her 4th fight under usada...
Ray,
I guess the scientists who did the study are idiots as well.
RoyNelsonsTVDinner - Cyborg would be the final nail in that over-hyped coffin.
over-hyped? How many title defenses does she have in a few years? How many does cris have? yea, thought so
You do realise it's possible to be successful and still overhyped right?
Talk of fighting Mayweather (and winning)? Rogan crying on podcasts? Dana declaring her P4P No.1? Dominating a weaker than average division? Avoiding fighting Cyborg?
Shall I carry on?
The stuff you listed has nothing to do with being "over-hyped". what is your definition of over-hyped? Or maybe try answering the question this time. If anyone in this thread is over-hyped is cyborg... what has she done besides beat much smaller women...and how many times did she defend the title in the last 2-3 years?
Don't worry about my definition of 'overhyped', it's not important. Try the official dictionary term instead...
overhype verb past tense: overhyped; past participle: overhyped
make exaggerated claims about (a product, idea, or event); publicize or promote excessively.
Still not convinced? Try Cambridge dictionary instead...
"To advertise or praise something more than it deserves in newspapers, on television, online, etc., in order to make people excited about it and want to buy, try it, invest in it, etc.:"
