More knowledge Ryron/Rener or Danaher?

Cool. I have a couple of their instructionals that are in my que. I have to get through a few others first.

I think you’ll like them. They give a ton of detail without being overly verbose and their English is excellent.

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Awesome. I’ve got Gui’s Understanding The Distance From Top, and, Understanding The Distance From Guard. I was optimistic that they’d be good videos and you’re making me more so.

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I also recommend Rafa’s Armbar Master Class. It’s expensive but has changed a lot of how I do things with the armbar. And it’s got a ton of great content. It’s on AOJplus

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Thanks for the recommendation. I have Danaher’s Enter The System Armbars insructional. Have you watched that one? If so, do you prefer one over the other?

Compare and contrast? :grinning:

Yes I’ve seen Danaher’s armbar one. I liked it. I’m still getting through Rafa’s but it’s awesome. The Danaher one is great but it’s all no-gi oriented, which is fine but I train in the gi as well. Rafa’s teaching style is less lecture and more down to earth, more conversational, and the footage of him rolling and applying the armbar in matches is jaw dropping at times. My favorite Danaher armbar material is actually in a section of Feet to Floor 3.

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Yeah, Danaher is my favorite instructor but most of his material is nogi, and most of my training is in the gi. That’s just the schedule at my school. I wish Danaher did more gi instructionals.

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His Feet to Floor stuff is gi. It’s really good.

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Awesome. I have it but haven’t watched it yet.

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John bounced before his knees were crippled. He supposedly used to hold pads at Renzo’s years ago. I wouldn’t use him as my striking coach but when it comes to grappling for MMA and wrestling against the wall there is no one even close to his knowledge level on the entire planet.

It’s also kept very quiet but he’s beat up quite a few people in the streets of NYC before you had 100 cameras on you at all times.

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And Rickson is 400-0.

I’m sure he can defend himself quite well…but I don’t believe all the stories and hoopla. You ask my students and I’m a world beater too.

Ermm, judo: grab, then throw on head. Repeat and rinse.

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efficiency!

I think the issue with the guard is viewing it as a primary offensive position. The guard is where you go when you have to be on your back. It shouldn’t be a location you voluntarily pursue.

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Agreed , it’s a place where you should have options but should be trying to avoid

I use deep half for pure Jiu Jitsu, but it’s terrible for self defense and MMA because you’re gonna get punched repeatedly in the face.

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I’ve seen it work ok in MMA. Werdum has pretty successful using it. IMHO, it’s about when you use it vs. the technique itself.

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That is exactly what I am challenging, I don’t think that is right. I think a properly used deep half can be useful in both self defense and MMA. I mean, if you stay down there like an idiot, yes, you will get punched in the face. And no, I don’t think it is the optimal place you want to be, but, if you end up on bottom and use it to transition, what is the problem?

If you do it properly, you are elevating your opponents hips. If they throw anything they either can’t get any power on it, or you shift your hips (which shifts them) and they miss or post out, and you take whichever exit opened up in the process and either get on top or get their back. I use it a ton, and that is basically the game for me. Get them to move and whichever way they go, I have an out, and you are in no way worried about getting hit if you do it right.

I think it has its place in MMA and self defense, but everyone says “it doesn’t work in MMA/self defense” and move on. I think it needs to be reexplored as a viable option, assuming you know what the fuck you are doing.

Again, I know it is controversial, but as a deep half player, I don’t see the issue. And no, I am not saying if you get in a street fight you should jump to deep half, but if you are on bottom, and know the game, I think it can be super effective as a way to transition from bottom to top.

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This. I think as a sweep and way to improve position when on bottom, it is great. Some transitions to some foot and leg attacks can be some offense from there, but mostly the sweeps I think are perfectly good for MMA/self defense if done right.

Watch Rogerio Nogueira use deep half to sweep wrestler Jason Brilz …mastery .

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