My gym just became a Lloyd Irvin affiliate

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ShakaSway - Like many have said, would have a conversation with your gym on this. Thats just bad rep all around for those that know.

Who will most likely steer traffic away from that gym if they get a chance. Also people who are serious about training will do some research, and seeing that guy is affiliated, will not be persuaded.

If you like the direction of the gym and its instructors, would have that talk Phone Post 3.0

At the very least, you'll know you did the right thing and made sure the owner and instructors were fully informed about the implications of associating with such a dirt bag.

What if this is OPs only option for a gym? Phone Post 3.0

KOphil25 - What if this is OPs only option for a gym? Phone Post 3.0
What would you do if your only option for sex was a porcupine? Phone Post 3.0

Not my only option but the best. Literally a 90 second walk from my place. I work 50 hours a week and I'm getting my bachelors done in two ears so my time is pretty limited. Everyone is super supportive and helpful. The instructors are top notch and we always kick ass in competitions. Phone Post 3.0

MrFluffyHippo - 
KOphil25 - What if this is OPs only option for a gym? Phone Post 3.0
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FUCK THE SNOT OUT OF THE PORKY, obviously

 

who doesnt know about TLI? Even better question is if they knwo why affiliate with him?

 

Is the main instructor a black belt in your gym? If not this might be th reason he is allining with him maybe?

MrFluffyHippo -
KOphil25 - What if this is OPs only option for a gym? Phone Post 3.0
What would you do if your only option for sex was a porcupine? Phone Post 3.0
One thing never changes..

The UG loves a good witch hunt. Phone Post 3.0

Switch gyms. Phone Post 3.0

domernd1 - Kinda sucks cause I like all the instructors an the way the gym is ran. I've had a few injuries an they never give me any trouble about not charging me while I'm out. I've heard horror stories about other people getting fucked in those situations. Just really off putting being affiliated with Irvin Phone Post 3.0
I had a serious car accident and I was out for a year. I was still charged while I was out and told it wasn't up to the school but up to the bill processing people. Complete bs. I only had for the few months I was still under contract. When I healed I found a new place to train. Phone Post 3.0

gogojefe -
domernd1 - Kinda sucks cause I like all the instructors an the way the gym is ran. I've had a few injuries an they never give me any trouble about not charging me while I'm out. I've heard horror stories about other people getting fucked in those situations. Just really off putting being affiliated with Irvin Phone Post 3.0
I had a serious car accident and I was out for a year. I was still charged while I was out and told it wasn't up to the school but up to the bill processing people. Complete bs. I only had for the few months I was still under contract. When I healed I found a new place to train. Phone Post 3.0
To add to story I wasn't trying to get our of the contract i was just trying to freeze it till I was able to come back. Phone Post 3.0

domernd1 - Not my only option but the best. Literally a 90 second walk from my place. I work 50 hours a week and I'm getting my bachelors done in two ears so my time is pretty limited. Everyone is super supportive and helpful. The instructors are top notch and we always kick ass in competitions. Phone Post 3.0
Just stay there man lol Phone Post 3.0

Yeah I probably will. Like I said the people running the gym aren't shady. And we actually have two black belts who consistently medal. The morning instructor got promoted to brown like two weeks ago an won absolute at ibjff last weekend. Phone Post 3.0

WattMell - Something eerie about a rapist specializing in putting people to sleep. Phone Post 3.0
Fucking right there is! Phone Post 3.0

Mike Bispings Beautiful Hair -
WattMell - Something eerie about a rapist specializing in putting people to sleep. Phone Post 3.0
Fucking right there is! Phone Post 3.0
Loyd Cosby Phone Post 3.0

Muerto -
bungee up - I listened to him on inside Bjj podcast and thought his side of the story wasn't to bad.
I don't have a dog in this at all but I think people might be jumping to conclusions a little bit without knowing both his side.

Is there anyone else who heard that interview and what did they think? Phone Post 3.0


What part didn't seem that bad?

Have a listen if you haven't already.

The rape he was involved in with 7 other dudes or something. He said if he was guilty there's no way 7 black men in Georgia ( or some state) in the 70s would have been acquitted. Apparently a couple of them took a plea bargain just because they were shit scared of doing 15 years.
Bottom line if they were guilty there's no way they would have gotten off.
Makes sense to me.

As far as the rape incident (I haven't seen the video) he said two of his guys came to him and told him what happened so he believed them When he saw the video he said your on your own not because they raped her ( they were found innocent) but because they just left her there on the concrete naked "and that's not what we do"
That makes sense to me.
He also said someone who came out and spoke out about him after he already had left the gym then came back and started training with him again.
That's fucked.

It was a long interview and I came away thinking I'm not exactly sure who to believe rather than just assuming what everyone else assumes which is he's a piece of shit rapist.
Everyone dose fucked up shit but I kind of get where he's coming from if things went down the way he said
If not he's a dirt bag but all I hear is people jumping on the hate wagon that really don't know anything then I hear his point of view and have to acknowledge that it's probably closer to the truth than people who have never even met him.
Judge for yourself Phone Post 3.0

I personally would not want to be in any way associated with a school officially "under" someone who's been involved in so much shadiness unless I knew for an absolute fact that all the charges and criticisms against them were completely bogus. Martial arts is about more than winning medals. 

If you haven't already, I would HIGHLY recommend reading Ryan Hall's open letter on the subject...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/121007439/Open-Letter-to-the-Martial-Arts-Community

If it doesn't get stiff you must acquit ! Phone Post 3.0

On the plus side I can learn the secret to getting my black belt in 3 years lol Phone Post 3.0

People want to hate on a golden once in a lifetime opportunity to travel into the desert and learn success secrets of a nameless reclusive multi-millionaire? Enjoy your "Bum Life" suckers.