Rarest taped event?MMA Holy Grail?

He is saying that you should be properly listed as a pro fighter before he got his fighter role on this forum.

Oh OK, I donā€™t care if itā€™s a pro fighters account or not unless I get super coder ring or Kool like that,lol. Talking with yā€™all is good enough for me.

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In the past,your screen name would be green if you were a pro fighter & light green if you are a amateur.Now you see a green fist & a light green fist to show that you are a fighter.

All fighters have access to the After Dark forum for free while non-pros donā€™t.Iā€™m pretty sure that being a pro or amateur fighter that you probably donā€™t see all of the advertisements either.

Ok how do I get a pro one?

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I am bugging Kirik for you.

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Iā€™m pretty sure that you have to contact Kirik or Chris and show proof of one of your pro fights.I have a feeling that they will take your word if you donā€™t,but I donā€™t know what goes on behind the scenes.

@Kirik & @Chris Scott is trying to get his pro fighter membership.

Make it happen.I can tell you that this is Scott because he knew the name of the racquetball club that him & Ken lifted weights at before Ken opened up the Lionā€™s Den.

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Is my callout not good enough? Come on crowbar.

My holy grail is the tape of CH knocking out Wand

Holy shit, this is the hardest hitting mma history posts Iā€™ve ever read. Thank you for telling us these stories. This is mma history right here. TTT


Gunthug1

5h

I can tell you about a few
Frank had just got out of folsom prison and Bob brought him right to the Den. I asked Ken if I could jump him in he said he wanted to do it so Frank feared him. Then for the next 30mins Ken basically committed attempted murder on Frank. Knocked him out hit him with knees to the face that were beyond brutal and submitted him over and over. It wasnā€™t til about 15mins in that us guys watching realized nobody had told Frank he could tap so 1of us yelled to him about tapping. It was brutal and Ken got his point across. Frank made it and became a young boy. Vernon jumped guy in that was a war. Vernon submitted guy alot but standing it was brutal guy made it both were beat up. I Donā€™t remember anybody I jumped in that made it they usually had to be taken to Lodi memorial hospital. But thatā€™s because Ken would let me jump in the big mouth,Iā€™ve had 300 street fights,if I kill you your fam canā€™t sue me guys. Or Hickson Gracie chief instructor who wanted to be in Pancrase but not train at the den,forgot his name. After Ken and him had a meeting in Kenā€™s office Ken called me back there and said what he said and said Scotty fuck him up. In the first 10secs I hit him with a overhand right that when it landed sounded like a gunshot in the warehouse he was out fell into the corner of the Thai ring I ran up started kneeing him in the face while he was still out everybody jumped in to pull me off him when they finally did inside karate was there writing a story about us,I threw my mouth piece at the writer dude and Jason got me to come outside with him so he could calm me down. But back in thĆ²se days if you were disrespectful or condescending to the Den you were gonna get seriously fucked up. I was the only lionā€™s den fighter that had no martial arts experience of any kind nor was I a wrestler the only time in the real world I had been on the ground with a guy was when I was pistol whipping him. So for me it wasnā€™t a sport or entertainment it was being given free reign to inflict as much damage on another man as possible. Jason jump in jeff masalgia who was a ex airborne ranger. Great fight til Jason dropped him and when he got up I told him to come over to me. He had a blown pupil I told Ken Ken asked do you still want to fight Jeff said yes Ken said your in now take him to the hospital. Vernon jumped in Zane Fraiser after he had been in at least 2 UFCā€™s. Lasted like 3mins Zane quit. Vernon also jumped Roland Payne in after he was in ufc3 lasted about 3mins. Dozens and dozens more and hundreds of challenge fights which all ended bloody and viciously. If it happened nowadays with all the cellphone with cameras we would have all done serious prison time. Lionā€™s Den was a very unique dojo because some fighters were sportsmen,some competitive in the ufc and Pancrase but didnā€™t want to really mame or kill a guy. And then a couple of us that in things we did before curb stomping some dope boy was a normal thing. It for me was perfect. I remember one time Ken and I were lifting out of the blue he sez. You know Scotty we have the greatest job ever we get paid alot of money to fuck guys up and not get locked up for it. I said with a smile I know what a great life we have. Like I tell all the interviewers and book writers. Just ask me a question and Iā€™ll answer it. I donā€™t bullshit if it happened Iā€™ll tell you and it didnā€™t the same no matter what the question cuz I give 2 fucks about whether anybody thinks Iā€™m wrong or not. I am an APEX PREDATOR. A Lion never loses sleep over the opinions of sheep. And thanks for all your support for the Lionā€™s Den over the years itā€™s much appreciated. :spades::axe:

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Crowbar, your list of pro mma fighter who posted here is sorely missing Jeffrey Faberman.

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We were probably typing at the same time.Either that or I just missed your post.

Carry on.

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Not a problem.

Just joking. You know I got love for you.

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Crowbar,you can take Travis Fulton off that list. He wonā€™t ever be posting here again.

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No sense in letting that pedo hang aroundā€¦ā€¦

RIP going up.

*Edited to say that canā€™t I change anything on the list.

Still blows my mind

Benny the Jet Urquidez was involved in a very early no rules karate tournament, i remember grainy footage of him taking a dude down and gnpā€™ing him.
It used to be on youtube but has since disappeared

that was from tommy leeā€™s world series of martial arts. Those matches were called ketsugo matches

I donā€™t know how ā€œrareā€ it is, but I helped promote an event held on an Indian reservation about an hour outside of Phoenix. I forget the guyā€™s name who did the video, he produced a pretty slick DVD which I lost somewhere. But it had some interesting fights and people involved. I think Josh Hinger fought, Ray Elbe fought, Joe Riggs was the referee, and Iā€™m trying to remember who else was involved. I swore if I ever found a copy Iā€™d throw it up on YouTube.

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