humphrey sphinctermuscle - well, from the outside looking in.
1. There is NO WAY i would believe someone would prefer a boil and bite to a custom. that doesn't make sense at all.
2. the way this whole thing looks to me, and I could obviously be wrong, is icedog is pissed because tapout chose someone else, and he's bitter.
Tapout mouthguards told me they would be using someone else shortly after this thread started and I refused to take it down. They are a very small part of my business so no I'm not bitter. I told them I was uncomfortable about them using qoutes from fighters that I knew I had made guards for quite a while ago.
I also want to qualify some earlier statements, the company that make the mouthguards is not Tapout but a company licensed to use the tapout name on mouthguards, they are however acting as a agent of tapout and I know Tapout corporate offices were aware of this practice. I told them.
Lanway the dispute here is that I felt that I had contracted for thirty impressions your dad felt like I had contracted for one day of his time, this is why we no longer do verbal aggrements.
I can believe that. No question you make a good product. I've never used gladiator, but I must admit, I'd consider a boil and bite.
1. AT NO POINT did any fighter who wore a Glad MG give a quote about ANY product including Glads. Again, I challenge anyone to find any place where this occurred. So once again, you are making up the story as you go. It’s obvious so you should stop it or prove your point with facts and actual data.
2. EVERYONE is aware of the fact that pro athletes wear a MG to their liking. Some wear a Tapout boil, some wear an Unbreakable, some a Glad, etc. It’s about advertising to the people who may buy this product. Why do you think anyone pays fighters to wear their products?
3. It’s already established by the very first post in this thread that Glad is upset and bitter about Tapout MG ads. If he wants to look at his own ads then he should pony up the money and advertise.
4. The custom MG business was lost by Glad well before this post went up. Furthermore, Glad approached Tapout to be a MG provider some time ago and was rejected.
Once again, if you don’t like seeing the advertising then don’t log-in or buy your own. But to rant about your competition here is certainly not furthering your cause.
circo - Fact check since ice continues to distort them...
1. AT NO POINT did any fighter who wore a Glad MG give a quote about ANY product including Glads. Again, I challenge anyone to find any place where this occurred. So once again, you are making up the story as you go. It’s obvious so you should stop it or prove your point with facts and actual data.
2. EVERYONE is aware of the fact that pro athletes wear a MG to their liking. Some wear a Tapout boil, some wear an Unbreakable, some a Glad, etc. It’s about advertising to the people who may buy this product. Why do you think anyone pays fighters to wear their products?
3. It’s already established by the very first post in this thread that Glad is upset and bitter about Tapout MG ads. If he wants to look at his own ads then he should pony up the money and advertise.
4. The custom MG business was lost by Glad well before this post went up. Furthermore, Glad approached Tapout to be a MG provider some time ago and was rejected.
Once again, if you don’t like seeing the advertising then don’t log-in or buy your own. But to rant about your competition here is certainly not furthering your cause.
circo - Fact check since ice continues to distort them...
1. AT NO POINT did any fighter who wore a Glad MG give a quote about ANY product including Glads. Again, I challenge anyone to find any place where this occurred. So once again, you are making up the story as you go. It’s obvious so you should stop it or prove your point with facts and actual data.
2. EVERYONE is aware of the fact that pro athletes wear a MG to their liking. Some wear a Tapout boil, some wear an Unbreakable, some a Glad, etc. It’s about advertising to the people who may buy this product. Why do you think anyone pays fighters to wear their products?
3. It’s already established by the very first post in this thread that Glad is upset and bitter about Tapout MG ads. If he wants to look at his own ads then he should pony up the money and advertise.
4. The custom MG business was lost by Glad well before this post went up. Furthermore, Glad approached Tapout to be a MG provider some time ago and was rejected.
Once again, if you don’t like seeing the advertising then don’t log-in or buy your own. But to rant about your competition here is certainly not furthering your cause.
I've been using a custom mouthguard for years I get mine from unbreakable in victorville Peter and Hector have been great to me over the years and also have worked with all my guys. I recommend a custom to all fighters properly fitted it can make or break your carreer. Mexicutioner has on and if he didn't chew on it he'd get more life out of it. In my opinion the most important part of the process is the mold fitting don't do it yourself go in and get it done by a professional, just my 2 cents...
RelentlessMMA - Two of my fighters that i manage are sponsored by Tapout Mouth Guards and have given testimonials BASED on the boil and bite, One of those said fighters even helped with the r & d of the mouth guard, the other was given one of the Gladiator guards and didnt like it so he was switched to the Boil and Bite and his Testamonial was based on that, Not saying anything negative about Gladiator's mouth guard.....BUT i agree with the above statement about having the facts first!!!!
Tapout Mouth Guards supports my fighters so i support them!!!!
# 1 lets start here, the question is not if the fighter had a Gladiator or if he was quoted the question is do we believe that he chose the boil and bite over the Gladiator it seems many here doubt this premise
OH SNAP
ON to point#2
why then insist that the guards be exact copies of your boil and bites if you were not trying to pass off the custom as your guard
now For #3 I expressed my dismay to you when I saw qoutes on the internet from fighters I knew we had made guards for the ad's just added to my frustration.
4 then why would you tell me on the phone shortly before you started your posting here that You will no longer be using gladiator due to this thread. would you care to tell us who Gladiator was replaced by.
oh and the more you post the longer this stays on the first page so please continue and bring more of your troll acounts and sponsored minions as they seem to be helping your cause greatly.
I'm sure TapouT corporate offices are real pleased with you, as a NDA would have been in order and would of avoided all this unpleasantry with me.
I see my 2010 marketing campaign now, who does TapouT turn to when they want a really great mouthguard GLADIATOR.
