and also legit screw Rener as he knows better. I used to try to give him the benefit of the doubt but F that bullshit. I know Torrance has great instruction and some good people there, but this is too much.
There fucking website states nothing about karate....it is a straight Gracie CTC website. Thtat bullshit about their old master chose the black belt with red bars is a made up lie.
But hey if they pay that monthy CTC fee and sell the Gracie merchandise then hey a little set of lies is okay.
Hunter V - lol at those idiot teenagers talking about keyboard warriors. Again they are teens but they aren't stupid. Keep up the flack good people, it is time they learned the ways of the world.
I addressed their "keyboard warrior" blanket term on their page. They can track my FB page from my comments and see me in my "keyboard warrior" outfit. Like many of you, I began training when these "instructors" we're infants, at best, but suddenly they know something about the world.
Man reading that page makes my head want to explode.
UGCTT_Fillthy - I think they agree, but someone is taking their pictures out of context to create a disparaging narrative. Obviously, they know they made a mistake. And they didn't choose the belts for Seth-do, GM Seth made that choice. They are very proud of their 14 yo black belts in Seth-do...whatever, good for them.You need to lay off the koolaid
FWIW - the name of the school is Fort Collins Martial Arts Academy.
Just to reiterate, they aren't wearing the Seth-do black belts to teach GJJ, and they're not marketing themselves as JJ black belts.
If you were reners wife you'd be the type that catches him cheating over and over but stays with him because deep down you know he loves you

Akston -UGCTT_Fillthy - I think they agree, but someone is taking their pictures out of context to create a disparaging narrative. Obviously, they know they made a mistake. And they didn't choose the belts for Seth-do, GM Seth made that choice. They are very proud of their 14 yo black belts in Seth-do...whatever, good for them.You need to lay off the koolaid
FWIW - the name of the school is Fort Collins Martial Arts Academy.
Just to reiterate, they aren't wearing the Seth-do black belts to teach GJJ, and they're not marketing themselves as JJ black belts.
If you were reners wife you'd be the type that catches him cheating over and over but stays with him because deep down you know he loves you
VU
A few of our esteemed forum members brought up Rener in the Most dislike Gracie thread. They didn't really go into details, but I am sure this isn't helping his dislike ranking right now.
In the original post there were pics of them doing grappling wearing the black belts.
digging deeper and deeper on their facebook page. Its astounding how the kool aid effects these people. Disgusting.
http://i.imgur.com/CMtOi4A.jpg
Rener reviewed their FB page YESTERDAY. Yep, still doesn't address the belt issue.
It's ridiculous...The have the triangles in the emblem...yeah yeah mountains, colorado - that's all it is.
They wear the helio gi. Their FB page is gracie jj. Their women's self-empowerment seminar poster where they're all posing doing RNCs, they're wearing their BB.
ANY time they want to be misleading about the belt and get called out, they just say that that class was their other whatever art.... and even in that other art, why are they the same level as their instructor who I believe is in one of their FB pics?... It's total boolsheet....
What an amazing coincidence that their made up form of karate and the other martial art they teach at their gym happened to share the same exact type of black belt.
Omg. Am I reading this right. Seth - do karate. I love this forums
checkuroil - What an amazing coincidence that their made up form of karate and the other martial art they teach at their gym happened to share the same exact type of black belt.
Exactly! This all day.
BigEyedFish -
I think I see the REAL problem...
--Rener is blind. Color blind.
If he thinks those are green mats, then it explains his inability to properly recognize belt colors.
shen -Mind if I steal this and post it as a follow up to Rener's FB review? LOLBigEyedFish -
I think I see the REAL problem...
--Rener is blind. Color blind.
If he thinks those are green mats, then it explains his inability to properly recognize belt colors.

shen -
This thread made me realize something; Rener & Ryron Gracie are the new Al & Will Tracy.
If you are not familiar, Al & Will Tracy were the Kenpo guys who pretty much started all this "learn by video tape" stuff, way back when. They sold franchises and were excellent businessmen who were great at using their marketing and charisma to get people to affiliate under the Tracy banner.
They raked in the money with video testing,private lesson add-ons and by making "certified instructors" quickly.
Decades ago the Tracy's wrote the book on all this stuff the Gracies are doing today.
Eventually though, the Tracy name became synonymous with "McDojo" and it more or less destroyed the brand they built. Most of their schools --often headed by poorly/quickly trained instructors-- closed. But, the Tracy's got rich first.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Sad truth to this
Aaron Lapointe -
On a separate note I can't think of anyone in the BJJ world who is better at connecting with and empowering an audience than Rener is. He is a true master in that regard.
Is that a euphemism for slick salesman?
checkuroil -
Holy Fuck! That is awesome.
Maybe photoshop Renner's face on Ronny?