TUF 20 premiere does 536,000

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epwar - 
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Damn, that sucks.  I actually will watch this season and was hoping it would do better.  Foolish to do it without a live Fight Night lead in though.  UFC has to be disappointed with this as there was heavy advertising during football this weekend.  Rating in the comments by author here:



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It is really time to put the TUF show to rest.  Next year will be 10 years and they keep doing the same old thing (outside of a few cosmetic changes).  The UFC has to come up with something better to get old fans excited and attract new fans.


"It is really time to put the TUF show to rest."

Under most circumstances I'd agree. But this season has a lot of promise. The girls are fighting. It's for the belt. It's an old-school tournament. They truly have most of the best at 115.

Why the F does it even matter what the numbers are? They're creating something awesome here. If every season had this much promise, maybe we'd be in the middle of a turn around?

I just don't get the negativity contrasted with the current season. If you'd posted this thread with respect to TUF Asia, it would have been a little easier to swallow.


It wasn't an attempt to bag on this season, more that the TUF show has become stale to the point people are tuning in.


I guess our difference of opinion is about "stale". This season seems to have a lot of promise and buzz here on the UG. I feel like a lot of people are saying "I watched it and I liked it, but it's too familiar and the numbers are bad, retire it already, we've been asking for that for years". I feel like it's the kid who's happy with his birthday present until he finds out his friends don't like it.

My apologies, I just re-read what I wrote and it sounds like I'm calling you a kid. Totally didn't mean it that way. Just thought it was a decent analogy for what I'm seeing a lot of people writing.

I dont want the UFC to fail, I just really cant fucking wait to see MMALOGICs spin on this. Seriously cant fucking wait.

Caught_clean - I dont want the UFC to fail, I just really cant fucking wait to see MMALOGICs spin on this. Seriously cant fucking wait.
I'll save you some time.

"Blah blah key demographics, blah blah blah new network, blah blah COPS re-runs, blah blah gay bro hug."

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I didn't even know it was airing till I came on here and saw the posts about the 1st episode. Definitely gonna follow it since I've found out about ThugRose being on the show.

Mulletron5000 - Why isn't TUF on FOX? Phone Post 3.0

This is actually a really good question. It would fit well with their program for nights when they don't have Hell's Kitchen or Masterchef on.

Its never gonna work on FS1, the channel only does 200k viewers average a night, you are only getting the people who tune in just for TUF, you arent getting any casual fans who happen to be watching the network and stick around like you'd get on SPike or FX.

You also arent seeing promos during shows like SOns of Anarchy and Justified like they used to get where 6 million people see it.

But what did people expect when live fight nights on Wed only do 600 to 700k, you think a reality show is gonna suddenly do 1 mill? 

Maybe if they had a fight night lead in like every other season and maybe TNA moving to Wed took some viewers but even with that they'd do what?  700k maybe if they were lucky.    The days of 1.2-1.5 mill viewers for TUF died when they left FX. 

Lets face it the move to FS1 isnt what they hoped for.  They knew it would be tough at first but have to think they'd be doing better than this for TUF and live events. 

Maybe its time to kill it in the uS and just let Mexico and Brazil and UK do TUF cause it seems to work internatinoally.     GOod season though and meaningful thats why its kind of a shame it had to be stuck on FS1.  

plastekt - 
Mulletron5000 - Why isn't TUF on FOX? Phone Post 3.0

This is actually a really good question. It would fit well with their program for nights when they don't have Hell's Kitchen or Masterchef on.


Because they can air some other shit and do double the ratings.    Say they do TUF on a Friday or Wed or whatever in primetime they would do what< maybe 2 mill?  Sure that sounds great for  TUF but when you look at what Fox would normally do in that slot with a rerun of any show they would do more viewers so to them it wouldnt make sense.



 

Someone needs to call Peter Griffin and his "Nielsen Family" to rectify our current tv situation. Phone Post 3.0

Chris27 - 


Its never gonna work on FS1, the channel only does 200k viewers average a night, you are only getting the people who tune in just for TUF, you arent getting any casual fans who happen to be watching the network and stick around like you'd get on SPike or FX.



You also arent seeing promos during shows like SOns of Anarchy and Justified like they used to get where 6 million people see it.



But what did people expect when live fight nights on Wed only do 600 to 700k, you think a reality show is gonna suddenly do 1 mill? 



Maybe if they had a fight night lead in like every other season and maybe TNA moving to Wed took some viewers but even with that they'd do what?  700k maybe if they were lucky.    The days of 1.2-1.5 mill viewers for TUF died when they left FX. 



Lets face it the move to FS1 isnt what they hoped for.  They knew it would be tough at first but have to think they'd be doing better than this for TUF and live events. 



Maybe its time to kill it in the uS and just let Mexico and Brazil and UK do TUF cause it seems to work internatinoally.     GOod season though and meaningful thats why its kind of a shame it had to be stuck on FS1.  


This TUF is definitely capable of reaching over 1.2-1.5 mill numbers. They're just going to have to build it up. A Joanne Calderwood fight is guaranteed to generate more interest and hopefully they can keep the momentum going. But, whatever the UFC is making in terms of broadcast deals, the girls aren't getting paid shit. The UFC is taking 99% of that money, so ultimately I could give a fuck. I actually don't know why any of us care if TUF fails.

Mulletron5000 - Why isn't TUF on FOX? Phone Post 3.0

Have you seen it? It's an unwatchable shit show.

This thread has actaully had some good back and forth without being disrespectful. Good shit fellas. I think we all just want to see the UFC and MMA in general succeed. It's cool they're gonna put it on big Fox on Sunday but then they have to compete with the NFL? Yikes.

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JJSFC - What is with the American obsession with ratings? Who gives a fuck?

Shows live and die by them
Not when the show is on an obscure channel that most people don't have or even knows exists.

Even the shittier seasons of tuf had at least a million viewers per episode or in the ball park, when on spike tv. Phone Post 3.0

I pay $80 a month for Xfinity and don't catch FS1. I can't afford an extra $10-15 a month just for one channel. They should have put the show on FOX and their ratings would have been way bigger. Phone Post 3.0

Well I can't speak for others but this is the first season I haven't watched in a long time because I have no interest in a full season of catty girl drama. Phone Post 3.0

reversal06 - Well I can't speak for others but this is the first season I haven't watched in a long time because I have no interest in a full season of catty girl drama. Phone Post 3.0

 


The one season that means more than any other season and choose not to watch?

 

BrattMamley - 


This thread has actaully had some good back and forth without being disrespectful. Good shit fellas. I think we all just want to see the UFC and MMA in general succeed. It's cool they're gonna put it on big Fox on Sunday but then they have to compete with the NFL? Yikes.



Kind of amazing what happens when UFC shills aren't carpet bombing a thread with spin.

reversal06 - Well I can't speak for others but this is the first season I haven't watched in a long time because I have no interest in a full season of catty girl drama. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah because putting cum long sushi and pissing on people's pillows are both very mature.

Every season of tuf is full of bs drama Phone Post 3.0

BrattMamley -
reversal06 - Well I can't speak for others but this is the first season I haven't watched in a long time because I have no interest in a full season of catty girl drama. Phone Post 3.0

 


The one season that means more than any other season and choose not to watch?

 


Well it doesn't mean more to someone who has no interest in the women's division. And if these ratings are any indication of what's to come he's not alone. Phone Post 3.0

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Mulletron5000 - Why isn't TUF on FOX? Phone Post 3.0

 

because the UFC is a bunch of stupidheads.  They wanna be tight with their content, and sell it to us retail, marked up, price gouging approach.  I'm one of the few assholes who actually bumped up the cable/ internet from $60 / month to $100 just so i can watch these biatches walk around in their underwear.

 

But most people aren't going to increase their cable bill to watch this show. on FS1.  Because it's on "expensive cable", "regular" cable people aren't going to browse / stumble upon it.

It shoulda been buyable on Fightpass.  If you like the show, you'd buy it! 

They'd know clearly that the number of viewers would be at least the number of buyers.  And so simple to know the revenue.  (Price they charged to watch TUF) x (buyers of TUF of Fightpass) = revenue.

Imagine that, you dumb fucking UFC people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


edit: another idea.  I doubt its original...but why not show the premier on some mass access channel that ppl channel surf, lure them in with it, and then show subsequent eps on FS1.  Instead of airing on FS1 from the start.

Contracts, how do they work? Phone Post 3.0

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BrattMamley -
reversal06 - Well I can't speak for others but this is the first season I haven't watched in a long time because I have no interest in a full season of catty girl drama. Phone Post 3.0

 


The one season that means more than any other season and choose not to watch?

 


Well it doesn't mean more to someone who has no interest in the women's division. And if these ratings are any indication of what's to come he's not alone. Phone Post 3.0
This is the only season I am watching FWIW. I guess it's a divided crowd. Phone Post 3.0