WMMA Discussion Thread

 

Cristiane Justino was the top earner at this past week’s Invicta FC 13 event; in fact, “Cyborg” earned the lion’s share of the total payroll.

Justino (14-1) needed just 45 seconds to handle title challenger Faith Van Duin (5-2) in this past Thursday’s Invicta FC 13 main event, which took place at Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas and streamed live on UFC Fight Pass.

“Cyborg,” who defended her featherweight title with the win, earned $100,000 of the $162,000 total payroll.

MMAjunkie today obtained the list of disclosed paydays from the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Official Invicta FC 13 payouts included:

Champ Cristiane Justino: $100,000 (includes $50,000 win bonus)
def. Faith Van Duin: $6,000

Tonya Evinger: $11,000 (includes $5,500 win bonus)
def. Irene Aldana: $5,000

Champ Ayaka Hamasaki: $10,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
def. Herica Tiburcio: $5,500

Pannie Kianzad: $6,000 (includes $3,000 win bonus)
def. Jessica-Rose Clark: $2,000

Amber Brown: $4,000 (includes $2,000 win bonus)
def. Catherine Costigan: $2,000

Jamie Moyle: $4,000 (includes $2,000 win bonus)
def. Amy Montenegro: $2,000

Amber Leibrock: $2,000 (includes $1,000 win bonus)
def. Marina Shafir: $2,500

Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter’s income.

In other words, the above figures are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event.

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/07/invicta-fc-13-payouts-cyborg-justino-earns-100k-of-162k-total-payout

Please bear in mind that Cris Cyborg's fight purse is paid by Zuffa and not Invicta (although,  in my opinion they are one and the same but neither party wishes to make that public knowledge)

In my opinon, the shorter fight card enables Invicta to pay out more to the other fighters which is a good start.

Good for the Champ, she deserves every penny and more. Fans tune in to see how fast Ronda can armbar her opponent and now they tune in to see how fast Cris can dominate her opponent in the most violent way. Good stuff :)

Karnak, 

 

Three days ago I did mention Irene- I said

Irene proved that she has a lot of heart but in my opinon, Tonya exposed the holes in her ground game. In my opinion, if Irene can get some good grappling training at another gym, she will def put the 135lb division on notice, WIll this loss to Tonya affect her potential move to the UFC? Another forum member mentioned a while back that Alexa and Irene come as a "package" deal so maybe this loss doesnt really matter?. Tonya mentioned in her pre fight media scrum that she wouldnt be interested in going to the UFC because she knows she will not be as acive as she is in Invicta, in your opinion, do you think that will change?

Karnak Gina's made it more than perfectly clear that she's NEVER coming back to MMA either; 

“I’ve never retired. I’ve never officially said that.”

“For some reason a part of me has always kept it open. I don’t know, there’s a certain part of me that thinks if circumstances were right, and I could keep doing what I’m trying to make my future into, that’s an ideal world. If circumstances were right, you never know. I’m very open to it.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1187344/gina-carano-is-very-open-to-return-to-mma/#rydd50KYcuIkzghZ.99

I am inclined to believe that 

1) If Gina had decided to return a few years ago,  there would be pressure for her to avenge her loss against Cris and in my opinion, she more than likely doesnt want a rematch

2)Gina was interested in the UFC but at either 145 or for more money than the UFC were willing to pay her

 

Michelle Waterson fight purse $15k/$15k

Angela Magana fight purse  $10k

UFC FN 71 Mi vs Duffee- There are two WMMA fights on the card- what say you?

Jessica Andrade  12-4 (Left)vs Sarah Moras 4-1

 

Holly Holm 8-0 vs Marion Reneau 6-1

Sunkist1207 - 


UFC FN 71 Mi vs Duffee- There are two WMMA fights on the card- what say you?



Jessica Andrade  12-4 (Left)vs Sarah Moras 4-1





 



Holly Holm 8-0 vs Marion Reneau 6-1





I say Andrade over Moras and Reneau over Holm.  Holm-Reneau should be particularly enlightening, as this will be the first time Holm has fought someone close to her own size.  Reneau showed a pretty damn slick ground game in her last fight, which should serve her well if she has trouble with Holm on the feet.

Karnak - 
yabadaba - 


^^ If you want to claim that Ronda fighting a stick pushed into a plant pot would generate more buys than Ronda vs Cyborg you shouldn't complain about being called out as a troll.



And yes, if Gina came back she could rival Ronda and Joanna in popularity.


Yeah, because it's really hard to see the point I was trying to make, was completely infused with serious amounts of hyperbole lol? Saying Rousey's always a bigger draw in her own right, is to highlight how stupid any this talk of Cyborg positively elevating women's MMA really is; evidenced in her open weight class era bullshit, pushing WMMA pretty close to the brink of becoming a complete non entity.

So think of it this way... The way you don't like to see the new movement in WMMA, I personally find the classic Cyborg dick riders totally embarrassing, as I feel they constantly bring a way more a troll-ish aspect to discussing WMMA, than anything I've ever said on this particular enhanced parasites behaviour too.

Plus after tasting the horrible freakshow experience with your MMA GOAT/love interest, Gina's made it more than perfectly clear that she's NEVER coming back to MMA either; so I don't fully understand your reasoning behind relating '09 Carano's popularity, to 2015's 135 UFC Carano's potential popularity either...?

Times changed, the sports moved on, and yet people want to hold on to the very things which saw WMMA stagnate and fade, because of the very same reasoning which not so long ago saw WMMA stagnate and fade... HUH!


What point are you trying to make? That Ronda outdraws Cyborg? Of course she does and by a wide margin - nobody disputes that.



Think of it this way... Dana White believes that Ronda vs Cyborg would be the biggest fight in women's MMA. Does that mean he doesn't like to see the new movement in WMMA? Does that make him a classic Cyborg dick rider? 

I do not read Portuguese but based on her Instagram pictures, BJJ GOAT Gabi Garcia has moved to California and is training at Kings MMA with Coach Cordeiro. I know that Gabi will be competing at the ADCC next month but if she decides to transition into MMA, in your opinion can she make 155 at the very least or should she continue her career in grappling? I am not sure how the pay in grappling tournaments compare to MMA so for anyone who is well versed in that, please feel free to let me know

 

 

Sunkist1207 - 

I do not read Portuguese but based on her Instagram pictures, BJJ GOAT Gabi Garcia has moved to California and is training at Kings MMA with Coach Cordeiro. I know that Gabi will be competing at the ADCC next month but if she decides to transition into MMA, in your opinion can she make 155 at the very least or should she continue her career in grappling? I am not sure how the pay in grappling tournaments compare to MMA so for anyone who is well versed in that, please feel free to let me know

 

 

 

 

 

Fuck no she can't make 155.  She can't make 170 either.  185 is probably as low as she can go, and even that might be a stretch.  Look at that King's MMA pic.  She absolutely dwarfs RDA.  She's bigger than Wand too.  The only guy in that picture who is bigger than her is Werdum.

 

Lauren Murphy ‏@LaurenMurphyMMA  Jul 12
How is Magana in the UFC but @mmajocelyn isn't? Joc would hand Magana her walkin papers. Glad Michelle finished her in a great debut.
Angela Magana UFC ‏@AngelaMagana1  6h6 hours ago
@LaurenMurphyMMA @mmajocelyn wow kettle callin da pot black. Didn ufc not accept Joc cuz of prostitution charges huh. Buttselfie
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    <a href="https://twitter.com/LaurenMurphyMMA">@LaurenMurphyMMA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mmajocelyn">@mmajocelyn</a> jealous? Sorry 4 ur poor soul n face any1 can c its lopsided make up dnt fix it. try it so u stop scarring kids</div>
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    <a href="https://twitter.com/LaurenMurphyMMA">@LaurenMurphyMMA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mmajocelyn">@mmajocelyn</a> love you! bless these grim ugly hags. Hurt people try to hurt people. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ellburrohablandodeorejas?src=hash">#ellburrohablandodeorejas</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ugly?src=hash">#ugly</a></div>
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For the above post

 
 
 
Lauren Murphy
 
Jocelyn (right) and Jill Lybarger
 
Ben Rothwell
 
 
 
Steve4192 - 
Sunkist1207 - 

I do not read Portuguese but based on her Instagram pictures, BJJ GOAT Gabi Garcia has moved to California and is training at Kings MMA with Coach Cordeiro. I know that Gabi will be competing at the ADCC next month but if she decides to transition into MMA, in your opinion can she make 155 at the very least or should she continue her career in grappling? I am not sure how the pay in grappling tournaments compare to MMA so for anyone who is well versed in that, please feel free to let me know

 

 

 

 

 

Fuck no she can't make 155.  She can't make 170 either.  185 is probably as low as she can go, and even that might be a stretch.  Look at that King's MMA pic.  She absolutely dwarfs RDA.  She's bigger than Wand too.  The only guy in that picture who is bigger than her is Werdum.

 


Steve4192, 

I agree. It would be a shame for Gabi to risk her health to atempt 155 or 145 because she will not be the same athlete at that weight. Gabi has a pretty face

Maybe Gabi Garcia could fight Erin Toughill at 180 lbs? Phone Post 3.0

JustAnotherMMAFan - Maybe Gabi Garcia could fight Erin Toughill at 180 lbs? Phone Post 3.0

 

JustAnotherMMAFan, 

 

In my opinion, if Erin does return to MMA, I think she fights at 145 or 155 in Invicta. 

With the rumors of Fedor returning to MMA and possibly to Bellator, this is perfect timing for the UFC to make Cyborg vs Rousey at 140!

 

I know 2 wrongs don't make a right. But isn't strange the two bully's are both injured? Is it karma or they faking it? Who's X-rays r those?

 

Bec Rawlings response in relation to the tweets above by Angela Magana

  1. @LaurenMurphyMMA @mmajocelyn women always dragging each other down instead of building each other up. #todosputas
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    @LaurenMurphyMMA @mmajocelyn wishin she loses her job when she has a kid to feed is a pretty shitty thing 2 do when she hasn't done shit 2 u
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    @LaurenMurphyMMA @mmajocelyn Why can't you just state that Joc deserves to be in the UFC without bringing another fighter down?
 

From another thread:

Yabadaba, Thank you for posting the gifs!

 

Happy Belated Birthday to Ashlee Evans-Smith

Ashlee celebrated her birthday on the 9th July

 

 

We know that Dana White recently attended a Legacy Fights event and was spotted talking to Valentina Shevchenko. Valentina, 56-1 MT and 9-1 MMA(loss to Liz Carmouche)will be competing against Anke "She Wolf" Van Gestel 22-3 MT on the 24th July at the Legacy Kickboxing 3 event  in Houston Tx

Is Valentina UFC bound?

 

 

Valentina

 

Anke

Do you agree with Josh? In your opinion, is he making general comments or talking about someone in particular?

Why is it in the US in #WMMA that tons of ladies will fight amateur but then never turn pro or fight 1 or 2 times and then quit?
I'd argue that there's almost no real need for women to fight amateur in the US. The pool is so thin at pro, just start at pro.
Most amateur rules are close enough to pro anyways. Might as well fill up the pro ranks & have fighters get legit records
The only people who would be really upset at the hit the amateur circuits would be promoters getting fights for free 
Zoila 12-4 MMA 2-0 MT went 0-3 in Invicta  but has wins over JAG, Jessica Penne and Megumi Fuji, Jessica Rackozy, and Roxi Sexton 
 

signs with and returns to division

 

 

Her "win" against Megumi was horseshit