WMMA Discussion Thread

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DalyDentedDecimated'sDome -
Ray Elbe - ^^^was ranked #1 in the world for Muay Thai 2 straight years, went up a weight class to challenge Miriam nakamoto for her wbc belt, prolly around a 30-4 record pro Muay Thai fights and undefeated in mma, it's a tough business to make a living in^^^ Phone Post 3.0


Ray, question. Do you think it's smart for Invicta to sign girls from far-ass away? Their fighter pay is microscopic, small, small, like definitely less than $5000, for newbs to Invicta it's about $1500.



Think of the pacific islanders like Faith from Zealand, the Inoue Jap girl....and if they hired this girl from Luxemborg....



their airfare is MORE than their show money!



Should they hire more americans and mexcians, canadians? that is, local?  Invicta seems to have a weak biz plan, they can't fill seats which would bring in extra $$ for fighter pay or expansion or whatever.

DaltDented, voted up--that's exactly the Situation Claire finds herself in,

Even while living in Thailand, she got very few opportunities, as Asian fight promotions really don't see the marketing value in bringing a "white girl" to defeat their local or international talent.

Claire is in a unique position, as she is truly a world class athlete in combat sports, however with no real local promotions in Luxembourg to build her resume, it makes it difficult to get noticed on an International stage even with MMA wins in Australia, Singapore, China, etc.

Invicta is more than just a regional feeder show however, as you can see with Rowdy Beth, and Faith Van Duin--they are essentially the premier league for WMMA...and if you take that one step further, the feeder show for the UFC.

Meisha Tate was honest when she said that the Reebok deal is biased towards men, because realistically the UFC has just recently opened its doors for women. It's unfortunate but there are several fighters like Claire, who were just a "bit"before their time, to really get an opportunity to showcase high level skills on a large stage.

Claire is still fighting Muay Thai, and very open to a return to MMA however, so I hope like Germaine De Randamie, Miriam Nakamoto and a few of the other premier strikers she gets a chance to return to MMA with a premier organization

With Invicta you have to believe the investors are seeing a long term profit in WMMA and not just the short term return of each individual card... Phone Post 3.0

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Shogun of Harlem -
Hate420 -
Shogun of Harlem - Sunkist,

Hello, with all due respect, if Cyborg is the best WMMA fighter in the world (according to you) why did she take an anabolic steroid?
Swap Cyborg with Anderson Silva and ask yourself the same question dummy. Phone Post 3.0
So you have no answer.

And go fuck yourself. Phone Post 3.0
And neither do you, lol. You're a terrible troll, it's like you don't even try. Phone Post 3.0

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Seriously, are you slow? I didn't ask you a question stupid. Lol Phone Post 3.0

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Great match up- I actually suggested this in the Rowdy Bec thread

VU's to everyone contributing in this thread :)

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StrikingMMA - "Can someone please explain to me how I add Youtube clips so you all can watch without having to click a link- thanks in advance :)"

Hello Sunkist!

First you navigate to the youtube clip that you are interested in.

Here's how to embed a video:

Click the Share link under the video.
Click the Embed link.
Copy the code provided in the expanded box.
Paste the code into your blog or website.


Hello StrIkingMMA!



Thank you and voted up as always :)

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Ray Elbe - 
Sunkist1207 -
Ray Elbe - Claire Haigh is another woman mma fighter who deserves a chance at a major promotion, her fights in Martial Combat and her win against Angie Parr were FOTN performances. She essentially stopped mma competing because of lack of opportunity in Luxembourg Phone Post 3.0
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877">Ray,&nbsp;</span></p>
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877">Have you thought about managing fighters or consulting? Is Invicta an option? &nbsp;Is Claire on social media?</span></p>
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877">Claire Haigh 3-0 I assume she is in the 135lb class</span></p>
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877"><img alt="" src="http://www1.cdn.sherdog.com/image_crop/200/300/_images/fighter/20100809045628_haigh.JPG" style="width: 200px; height: 300px;" /></span></p>
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877">&nbsp;</span></p>
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877">Haigh vs Parr with a mini documentary</span></p>
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZFgEN2rAtI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZFgEN2rAtI</a></span></p>
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        <span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877">Can someone please explain to me how I add Youtube clips so you all can watch without having to click a link- thanks in advance :)</span></p>
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<span class="User-174284" id="userPost53524877">Claire is 135, her fight vs Elieen Forrest shows great use of standing elbows in mma, prolly the best example in WMMA.<br />
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I've reached out to Invicta about Claire, but not much response.<br />
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Managing fighters is more headache than it's worth, lol. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

Ray, 

 

I hope you dont mind me suggesting this but in my opnion, if you are not interested in managing, I think you are well respected and connected in the MMA community to possibily think of consulting.

 

I agree with what DalyDentedDecimated'sDome said about the financial peril of signing with Invicta but looking at the bigger picture, if Claire does well, this could be a stepping stone to other things. 

 

I hate to hear that someone is giving up on their dream. Has Claire thought of signing to a US management company? I know that Posterboy sign non US fighters. Not sure how they are as a management company but it could be a good place to start

https://posterboyfighters.wordpress.com/about/

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Hate420 - 
Shogun of Harlem -
Hate420 -
Shogun of Harlem - Sunkist,

Hello, with all due respect, if Cyborg is the best WMMA fighter in the world (according to you) why did she take an anabolic steroid?
Swap Cyborg with Anderson Silva and ask yourself the same question dummy. Phone Post 3.0
So you have no answer.

And go fuck yourself. Phone Post 3.0
And neither do you, lol. You're a terrible troll, it's like you don't even try. Phone Post 3.0

Anderson got busted after weidman BROKE him. He was scurred and turned to using drugs to feel like he could get a victory---just like cyborg. Cyborg lost her first fight and got scurred and needed to cheat and fight girls under her weight class to feel good about herself.

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For anyone interested, I will be making a seperate thread for the Fight Valley Movie hopefully this will help support the cast as well as encorage the NY/NJ UGers to go out and be extras

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 9 minutes ago

Silver in Gi at the Canadian Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation Tournament so far.

 

Good for Charmaine. Nice to see the fighters challenging themselves in martial arts

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Sunkist1207 -


For anyone interested, I will be making a seperate thread for the Fight Valley Movie hopefully this will help support the cast as well as encorage the NY/NJ UGers to go out and be extras

The movie is being filmed in NJ/NY area? Phone Post 3.0

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BRZ - 
Sunkist1207 -


For anyone interested, I will be making a seperate thread for the Fight Valley Movie hopefully this will help support the cast as well as encorage the NY/NJ UGers to go out and be extras

The movie is being filmed in NJ/NY area? Phone Post 3.0


BRZ,



According to the official Twitter account, the Movie will be filmed in Camden NJ and the Germantown area of Philadelphia



I will be posting more updates in this thread



 



http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2449069/Fight-Valley-Movie-Starring-Tate-Holm--Cyborg/?&amp;page=1

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Tiffany Van Soest won the vacant lionfights featherweight title after a TKO win over Bernise Alldis

I remember Tiffany losing her MMA debut fight but do you think she should try again or stay in Mauy Thai?

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Sunkist1207 - 

Sooo who wins on Saturday?

 

 

 


"After contracting a case of the flu, UFC strawweight Nina Ansaroff has been deemed medically unfit by doctors to compete in her UFC 187 bout against Rose Namajunas on Saturday night."

http://www.ufc.com/news/Ansaroff-Namajunas-off-187

 

Shame. Wishing Nina a speedy recovery. Hopefully this fight can be added to the next card

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Thank you to everyone at  , I'm proud to have achieved Gold in No Gi & Silver in Gi.   
 
 
 
Congrats to Charmaine. I still want to see her and Erin Toughill fight!
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For anyone interested, the 4 Horsewomen have their own T-shirt available at http://www.lvfightshop.com/

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Two females fighting out of Australia, recently signed to US managament companies and making noise on social media

Christina "Creepy" Tatnell- At 18  fought Bec Rawlings on 24hs notice to make her pro debut- currenly 4-1 125lbs

 

Megan Anderson 4-1 145lb

Megan Anderson vs Jodie Struzik

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Feeling great these days and taking a look at what I want to accomplish in my WMMA career. In the immediate
 
future , I just want to get back in the cage this summer and compete. I have always been out spoken on athletes
 
cutting weight and trying to fight at weights lower then they should. That being said I have always been very aware
 
and dedicated to taking care of my body and my health. I want make sure I give myself the best opportunities to
 
have the best fights against the best opponents on the planet. With this in mind I am strongly considering making
 
the move to 135 later this year. My dreams of having the 155 division grow , is most likely not going to happen in
 
my day , and 145 is still a division I can see myself dominating in the immediate future. But if I truly want to test my
 
self and my skill level , its time to look at 135 . In any case I hope to have fight news from Invicta FC soon
 
 
Not sure how I feel about Charmaine going to 135. In my opnion, her run at 135 may end up like Peggy Morgan's 135 run. Charmaine and I say this respectfully, is a big girl,  she is over 6ft and cutting to 135 may not be healthy for her. I am not a medical professional, this is just my personal opinion
 
What say you?
 
 
 
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Shogun of Harlem -
Hate420 - Seriously, are you slow? I didn't ask you a question stupid. Lol Phone Post 3.0

Swap Cyborg with Anderson Silva and ask yourself the same question dummy.

That is asking a question, smart guy. Where did you learn to argue?
Again, and what question did I ask you stupid? Phone Post 3.0

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Karnak - Tweet needs to stay at 145. Even if people argue about quality of the female weightclasses, her fate/record will much worse at 135, than it is right now at 145.

And I'm slightly perplexed with the Calderwood vs Rawlings match up too.


Karnak, 



If you dont mind me asking, why are you perplexed by the Rawlings vs Calderwood match up? In my opinion it is a great match up. We were talking about this in another thread and the match making fairies must have been lurking :)



 



I guess talk of Chamaine going to 135 caused a stir, here is her response



 



 







 


Charmaine "Not So Sweet" Tweet


20 hrs · 







And for those out there that most definitely say I cant do 135 ...who the F/*K are you. I have dominated in combat sports around the World for 13 years and have met every goal I have ever set for myself in this Sport. So although I still have a couple of things left I want to do this year in my current divisions ...Ill warn you all right now ....135`s should start looking behind them sooner then later!!




 

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McMann

McMann

A frustrated Sara McMann has taken matters into her own hands.

With Cat Zingano injured, and Sarah Kaufman “not returning the UFC’s calls”, McMann has issued an open challenge to anyone on her division to fight July 15th on the UFC card in San Diego. McMann made the statement on the MMA Hour Tuesday.

McMann is coming off a close majority decision loss to Miesha Tate this past January. She had went 7-0 before losing to champion Ronda Rousey.

McMann had claimed that Kaufman had refused to fight her in the past, and Zingano was set to take on McMann, but is currently out with an injury. Two possible names are Alexis Davis or Amanda Nunes.

McMann wants the division to speak up to see who is willing to fight, even if it’s just to see who is game to work their way up the division.

https://wombatsports.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/sara-mcmann-issues-open-challenge-for-july-ufc-card/
 
Interesting...what say you?
Maybe Sarah Kaufmann will now be interested in fighting Sara McMann? 
McMann vs Nunes is an interesting match up